Car Camping Big 3

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Ultralight backpacking has it's big three items that you focus on to reduce your pack weight;
  1. Backpack
  2. Shelter
  3. Sleep System

For vehicle camping what are the big three we should focus on as the most important areas that deserve the most research, and dollar investment? Since we are discussing a more complex activity the list may not be single items instead it mat be a category ex; Repair.
 
1. Food storage
2. Cooking setup
3. Creature comforts (shade, entertainment, chairs, etc)
 
cash
tools
phone
 
hmm, i'd say..

1. shelter (sleep system, bags)
2. food/water (food prep, cooking gear, water source)
3. gear (like camp axe/saw, tarps, ropes, flashlights, camp chairs, etc.)

and i'd use the same list for portaging/backcountry camping. guess it all boils down to what's important to everyone, and this varies quite a bit! from the simple bare bones purist type of camping all the way to glamping with electric hookups, inflatable mattresses and portable hot showers..
 
With many years of camping/exploring in the oz bush for 2 - 3 week stretches being the norm there's a lot of areas that you fine tune over the decades...

The vehicle is of course of primary concern since it has to get you there AND back. So, maintenance is important as is the appropriate recovery gear and repair gear that makes sense for where you are going (and the knowledge/experience to use it). Being self sufficient when a puncture occurs or you have to do a minor repair is obvious. So, you do end up taking a fair bit of stuff that may not (hopefully) ever be used while you're out there. It's stuff you should own anyway, so not an extra expense. Being big enough to look at an obstacle and decide to bypass, or turn back is a major plus when you are out in the sticks, better than breaking something a few hundred miles from the nearest town.

A reasonable tent, footprint, pegs, sleeping pad and sleeping bag are very important to get you rested and comfortable. You don't want to spend an hour assembling it all up and you don't want to get rained out or too cold or too hot.

The one luxury item is a decent sized 12V fridge. Having the option of non-canned food is wonderful and NOTHING beats a cold one or two when temperatures climb and you have made camp and are ready to relax. Even cold water is amazing when the temperatures are climbing up past the 90's. Since you can pack a fridge pretty full of stuff (even if all of it doesn't need refrigeration) you don't lose much storage area in the vehicle. Last year we were out for 2 weeks and no option to restock, so storage room for food becomes important as does how you store things (potatoes, onions etc) and having fridge capacity for other fresh food/meat/eggs etc. Choosing which food to eat first (more perishable) and how much will be needed to cover the time you're out there PLUS extra in case of breakdown etc.

Cooking gear is somewhere that folk can go crazy, for vehicle camping weight is not a big deal, so cast iron frypan, camp oven (if you want fresh bread or a cake or stew etc) and then something to boil water for tea/coffee. I like stainless steel (nesting cook kits) for the non-cast iron stuff. I always take a few plastic deep dish/bowls, handy for breakfast/dinner/prep... one size fits all. Stainless forks/knives/spoons.

A basic table (I recycled the legs off an old folding camp table bolted to some plywood). Chairs - now that's an area where spending some money + research time is worthwhile! You spend quite a bit of time sitting around at camp so a STURDY and COMFORTABLE chair is very important - most aren't very durable and you may only get one trip out of them. Being able to repair the chairs is important while you're out there. A decent tarp and posts/pegs so you can set up for shade or rain protection, being able to attach it to the vehicle means you can create an area protected from the elements and still easy access to the vehicle/tailgate area for cooking etc.

In oz we do all out cooking over a fire, so a decent diy hot plate to toss over a small fire/coals is perfect for cooking. Cast iron is good for use on fire. NO aluminium cookware - it'll just melt if you leave it on the fire and forget to check it :) I do take a small multifuel one burner hiking stove - in case of rain or the need for a quick meal or hot water etc.

First aid kit with FRESH meds etc is something a lot of us ignore. Much of the contents depends on specific needs + the obvious cuts/scrapes/punctures...

Comfortable clothes (layers) and footwear to deal with all the weather variations that are (and sometimes are not) likely to occur. A decent bag to store it all into. Since I'm often out long enough in warmer weather, I have some clothes pegs so I can do basic de-stinking clothes washing. No need for a ton of clothing if you can layer it up if needed. A decent wind/rain proof jacket/coat so you can set up camp if the weather decides to try and give you a free shower.

I have a checklist of stuff I pack/take on trips that has evolved over many many years. These days it's rare to find something to add to the list and often I'm looking to prune something off it instead :)



I do have a mate that tends to have the top notch gear (at least in price) in his 4wd so where I have a 'new' table that cost me nothing he has a $200+ wizbang aluminium folding table (though with plastic clips that can break...) and various other 'gourmet' camping equipment. At the end of the day he can set up camp quite a bit faster (since he also sleeps in the back of his troopy) but we both get to the same spots, get nice and compfy and have a cold beer or two before cooking up meals.

Of course in my mate's case I think that searching out the latest $$$ item is part of his camping fun... My fun is having an equivalent item that cost me $ or nothing :)

As always, 1/2 the fun is getting there and that includes accruing and refining all the gear you take with you over the years.

Enough ramblings by me for now...

cheers,
george.
 
@george_tlc I like your list
To make a short "big three" list;
  • Repair/Recovery
  • Shelter/Furniture
  • Food Storage/Prep

to make it a "plus 2" list
  • Lighting (Hard to believe George didn't mention this one ;))
  • Fire (wood, axes, saws or gas fire)


My list assumes that every car has suitable first aid and safety equipment.

Camp furniture is a big one, while I've spent many an evening sitting on a beer cooler a comfy chair is much better. The table is another important item, it's really nice to get food prep. up out of the dirt.
 
Some of you fellas have more extensive experience than I, but the one thing I'd suggest that I don't see above is communication.
Someone listed a phone - and if you have coverage, that'd be great.
I imagine most of us use our rigs to get far away from civilization so you gotta expect limited cell reception.
So what direction do you go?
How far does citizens band travel?
Are you a HAM operator?
Can you afford a sat phone?

I'd also suggest that a well stocked first aid kit (and the knowledge of how to use it) would be important in the event of a back country injury.
$.02
 
@JayDoc I was also going to suggest communication. For those times when your handyman / shade tree mechanic / field surgeon skills just aren't up to the task. Speaking of field surgeon some good first aid skills and a simple kit can go a long ways. The store bought ones I've seen tend to be junk. Some 4x4's 5x9's and one or two big rolls of guaze will patch up most wounds. If you require something more than that then you had better be using your communication to call for help. A set of tweezers and some iodine for disinfecting would be a good idea also. Also, for those that are interested you may ask your physician if they can prescribe you an epi pen for your trips out into the wilderness. Anaphylactic shock will certainly put a damper on your trip.
 
@JayDoc I was also going to suggest communication. For those times when your handyman / shade tree mechanic / field surgeon skills just aren't up to the task. Speaking of field surgeon some good first aid skills and a simple kit can go a long ways. The store bought ones I've seen tend to be junk. Some 4x4's 5x9's and one or two big rolls of guaze will patch up most wounds. If you require something more than that then you had better be using your communication to call for help. A set of tweezers and some iodine for disinfecting would be a good idea also. Also, for those that are interested you may ask your physician if they can prescribe you an epi pen for your trips out into the wilderness. Anaphylactic shock will certainly put a damper on your trip.

We could take up a whole thread just with what we keep in our med kits - in fact I think those threads already exist - so I'll resist the urge to make suggestions there but it should be pretty easy to find room for a respectable kit. We are talking about car camping here.

I also found this much cheaper alternative to a sat phone for those worst case scenarios:
http://www.cabelas.com/product/SPOT...&WT.mc_id=BingPLA&WT.z_mc_id1=03750221&rid=20
It is a GPS messenger which requires a yearly subscription I believe.

Even cheaper (long term) would be a personal locator beacon.

btw: what part of KS are you in. I'm north of Topeka.
 
I'd say communication deserves a place on the list. I'd bump Food storage/prep off to make room since that can vary from Freeze dried to gourmet fair.
  • Repair/Recovery
  • Shelter/Furniture
  • Food Storage/Prep
  • Communication

to make it a "plus 2" list
  • Lighting (Hard to believe George didn't mention this one ;))
  • Fire (wood, axes, saws or gas fire)
 
We could take up a whole thread just with what we keep in our med kits - in fact I think those threads already exist - so I'll resist the urge to make suggestions there but it should be pretty easy to find room for a respectable kit. We are talking about car camping here.

I also found this much cheaper alternative to a sat phone for those worst case scenarios:
http://www.cabelas.com/product/SPOT...&WT.mc_id=BingPLA&WT.z_mc_id1=03750221&rid=20
It is a GPS messenger which requires a yearly subscription I believe.

Even cheaper (long term) would be a personal locator beacon.

btw: what part of KS are you in. I'm north of Topeka.
There are indeed many threads on medical kits. In practical terms a first aid kit should be in every car all the time not just when camping.
 
Ok so, #1...Repair and recovery. Repair could mean anything to get your vehicle in shape, let's leave that one to each person. Recovery could mean from a winch to at the very least a high lift jack or come a long. My 55 has a PTO winch and I bought one of http://www.amazon.com/American-Power-Pull-15002-Puller/dp/B000CSYMWC/?tag=ihco-20 these come a longs and a high lift, just in case I need to go back the way I got in the mess. Again up to each, to decide what type of camping your going to do and decide the level of recovery you'll need. Don't forget the shovel!

Any more ideas?
 
Ok so, #1...Repair and recovery. Repair could mean anything to get your vehicle in shape, let's leave that one to each person. Recovery could mean from a winch to at the very least a high lift jack or come a long. My 55 has a PTO winch and I bought one of http://www.amazon.com/American-Power-Pull-15002-Puller/dp/B000CSYMWC/?tag=ihco-20 these come a longs and a high lift, just in case I need to go back the way I got in the mess. Again up to each, to decide what type of camping your going to do and decide the level of recovery you'll need. Don't forget the shovel!

Any more ideas?

One thing we have overlooked - probably because it is so basic - is bring along a buddy. Preferably one with a strong back or better yet another vehicle to help rescue you.
I know I've broken that basic rule of back country exploring before.
Having a shovel is an excellent idea. Throw in an ax and you could cut small trees/branches to put in your track to improve traction in mud. If sand or snow is the bigger problem where you live, there are those sand track things to improve traction. Surely they'd work in mud too.
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For the purpose of this exercise I'd say solo vs group travel is more of a philosophical thing, except in as much as it affects the Big Three.
EX: a group might bring a dining canopy where it would be unnecessary for a solo trip, or everybody brings one box of wood for the nightly fire.
 
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