Calling the experts... Torsion Bar Woes...

[SS100]

Just for your information, I have OME T-bars, SPC UCA and ICON Stage 3 shocks. My center hub to fender lip is 20.5 inches.

Thanks!
So basically the same as my truck half an inch more.
What kind of bumper/winch (if any) do you have?

 

[Skidoo]

Thanks!
So basically the same as my truck half an inch more.
What kind of bumper/winch (if any) do you have?

ARB Deluxe, 9500lb winch, Frt Slee skid, Slee drop diff.
The ICONs may have a touch more travel, getting me that 1/2 inch.

 

[SS100]

I have forgotten to update the this thread and I think it is a good idea to give it closure in case somebody else has my problem.

Turns out the TBs I installed where defective and after several e-mails and phone calls to ARB explaining my problem, they sent a brand new set of TBs as warranty.

The measurements with the new TBs are:

• Tires on the ground 21.5 inches (both sides)
• Tires off the ground at full droop 23.5 inches (both sides)
• This gives a Droop of 2 inches or 48mm.... minimum droop as per the installation manual is 50mm but the truck feels fine and was alignment was no problem. I'm guessing as the TBs set a little with use, they will gain more than the 2mm Droop.

So everything is "normal" in that department now.

Kudos to ARB for an outstanding Customer Support and warranty of their products.

 

[abuck99]

What did ARB say was defective about the TBs they initially sold you? Anything anyone else might want to watch for?

 

[cybrstar]

I have the ome's on mine and I do wheel it. I found that when only having 2 inches of droop (as what everyone recommends) wheeling it and driving it as a dd, it was way to stiff. My front end consist of a 12k winch, bottom belly armor, sliders, and ARB.

Once I lowered the front end to allow 2.5-3 inches of droop, my front end felt just a little stiffer than stock, and didn't feel like it was springing out in every little bump in the road. The adjustment was only about 1.5 turns looser.

I have the ability to change out my springs which i do own a set of 863's and 865's. The 863's in my opinion were just too stiff and caused a lot of front end springiness too. So I installed my 865's with an air lift bag set up. Smooth as a Cadillac now and if I load it up I just add more air.

If its height that you want just install a set of pucks for a BOdy lift. There is no need for a really stiff rear spring IMO with this rig even with a steel rear bumper as I will be installing my 4x4labs because a rock just ate my stock one.

 

[Skidoo]

For offroading you may want more than 2 inches, you will most notice this climbing steeper slopes. Check out this post.
Raising front end....

I have forgotten to update the this thread and I think it is a good idea to give it closure in case somebody else has my problem.
...

The measurements with the new TBs are:

• Tires on the ground 21.5 inches (both sides)
• Tires off the ground at full droop 23.5 inches (both sides)
• This gives a Droop of 2 inches or 48mm.... minimum droop as per the installation manual is 50mm but the truck feels fine and was alignment was no problem. I'm guessing as the TBs set a little with use, they will gain more than the 2mm Droop.

 

[SS100]

For offroading you may want more than 2 inches, you will most notice this climbing steeper slopes. Check out this post.
Raising front end....

Thanks @Skidoo for pointing that out. It makes total sense. When I finished installing the TBs, even though I got the Droop in-spec with the installation instructions, I was amazed at how little travel there actually is, but this being my first IFS rig, I figured it is normal (although I AM aware there will be a lot of lifting front tires).

I already have longer OME shocks, Slee Diff Drop Kit and SPC UCAs, so I don't think I can get more travel out of the IFS. So my only option is to lower the front a little in order to get more droop (which sucks!). Since the second set of TBs are pretty new and I still have not taken them off road, I'm sure they will settle some... I'll be careful and see how the truck behaves when off roading on shorter steeper climbs first before committing to something more difficult.

From your experience, what should be a "decent" Droop to have for offroading in the 100 Series?

 

[Skidoo]

My droop is 2 1/2 inches which seems to work well for offroad. I am running 864s so backend is way higher than front.

 

[SS100]

My droop is 2 1/2 inches which seems to work well for offroad. I am running 864s so backend is way higher than front.

Thx! What's your fender-to-hub measurement with the wheels on the ground? I'm guessing around 20.5 to 21 inches?
My rear end is also very high when compared to the front, specially now that I still haven't installed a rear bumper.

 

[Skidoo]

When I switched to the ICON shocks was able to set it to 21 inches.