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Don't have a remote start on my LX, but I can confirm that I could lock my Tacoma with the mechanical key while it was running. I'd imagine I should be able to do the same with the LX.
The part # and link you sent above is for the 2014....will that same part # work in a 2010 LC? And when I try the link, I get an auto message that the site is closed...kind of strange. Any way, I appreciate everyone's help here and I'd prefer to stay with OEM as long as isn't cost prohibitive. We get really hot, humid weather here for 6 months a year so I need the remote for cooling down my charcoal interior. Thanks..
I occasionally start my truck like this and then go back inside. I don't bother to lock it - if you put your foot on the brake to try to shift out of park it will cut the engine off. You might be able to pop it into Drive with a screwdriver on the repo-man bypass, but I don't think you'd get very far unless you only used the ebrake
If you just lock it and leave it running .. someone can just drive off with it.
All of the alarms even the OEM will turn off the engine when you open the door. It's a security thing built into the PCM.
All of the aftermarket alarms with remote start you need to carry both the oem fob and the alarm fob to remote start with them because the oem security uses a revolving frequency. The after market alarms can not mimic the oem revolving security codes for the proximity part.
The oem remote start had a list price of about $400 for the part, but it is not an alarm. Someone can break the window and reach in, and the alarm will not go off. It's like this on most new cars and trucks.
With the alarm you get 2 way communication (alarm alert) and remote start up to 1 mile; more if you go with a cellular system.
All of the alarms even the OEM will turn off the engine when you open the door. It's a security thing built into the PCM.
All of the aftermarket alarms with remote start you need to carry both the oem fob and the alarm fob to remote start with them because the oem security uses a revolving frequency. The after market alarms can not mimic the oem revolving security codes for the proximity part.
The oem remote start had a list price of about $400 for the part, but it is not an alarm. Someone can break the window and reach in, and the alarm will not go off. It's like this on most new cars and trucks.
With the alarm you get 2 way communication (alarm alert) and remote start up to 1 mile; more if you go with a cellular system.
Vip Security System - Gateway Ecu - Toyota (PT398-60080-EC) | McGeorge Toyota Parts
You will need to call them to get the rest of the part numbers. The kit for 2010 has been discontinued. This is the ECU. It lists 2013 but it will fit more than that. But you'll need the harness and stickers as well. Just give them a ring and tell them what you're up to. They'll get you the right parts. More than likely a newer kit, even though not listed for 2010, will work.
Reference this kit and ask them for the replacement part number(s): PT398-60080
McGeorge Toyota Online Parts
9319 West Broad Street
Richmond, VA 23294
1-800-888-9753 Option 1
You will need to call them to get the rest of the part numbers. The kit for 2010 has been discontinued. This is the ECU. It lists 2013 but it will fit more than that. But you'll need the harness and stickers as well. Just give them a ring and tell them what you're up to. They'll get you the right parts. More than likely a newer kit, even though not listed for 2010, will work.
Reference this kit and ask them for the replacement part number(s): PT398-60080
McGeorge Toyota Online Parts
9319 West Broad Street
Richmond, VA 23294
1-800-888-9753 Option 1
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Hey..man y thanks there. I plan on calling them this morning..
How would someone drive off with it? If you push start, and then take the key with you when you exit the vehicle, the vehicle will shut off when someone depresses the brake pedal if there is no key in the vehicle.
In fact my wife and I found if you start the vehicle with only one key inside then swap drivers and keys with the engine running, the truck will still shut off even though there's a key in the vehicle because the key was not there at startup time. That said if both keys are in the vehicle we've found one of us can get out and the other can still drive off, so I assume any keys inside the truck sync with the ECU at startup.
I've not tried it but I suspect if you left the window open and did a remote start, then climbed in via the window that depressing the brake would also shut the vehicle off even though the door was never opened. In short unless there's a key fob in the vehicle someone cannot drive off as they cannot apply the brake to shift from Park without the engine cutting out.
OEM remote start kit from McGeorge is like $324...
The question was if you start it normally and lock the door, not remote start it.
If you remote start it .. then it will turn off... however if you start it normally then lock the door and walk away .. someone can just drive off with it.
I have done with it another vehicle .. not the 200, and not using the remote start. Try it. Start the vehicle with your friend in there .. then have your friend walk away with the fob.. usually makes a ding sound .. then try and drive off. Worked for me. ... So it you just start it and lock the door .. you can drive off with it, especially if you do not trigger some alarm. I have not tried it with the 200.
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Back on topic ..
I installed an alarm, however it does not replace the proximity security in the OEM fob, so I have to carry the two fob;s if I want to remote start it. Normal day to day other than remote just the OEM fob works fine. It will remote start up to 1 mile and the alarm will communicate up to 1 mile. Good for remote areas, or if you want to remote start the car from the aircraft traffic pattern.
I was unable to find an alarm the could replace the proximity security plus add the remote start and alarm sensors.
The alarm tech explained it was because the oem security uses a rolling frequency code. This way someone scanning can not pick it up and use it.
I was going to add the oem remote start .. but the range was weak and there was no 2 way communication with the alarm system. Meaning the alarm could go off and you would not know it unless you could hear it.
Some use cell service .. but I need my alarm with or without cell service so I went with a 2 way communicator one. Cell is better in a city with cell service.
I installed an alarm, however it does not replace the proximity security in the OEM fob, so I have to carry the two fob;s if I want to remote start it. Normal day to day other than remote just the OEM fob works fine. It will remote start up to 1 mile and the alarm will communicate up to 1 mile. Good for remote areas, or if you want to remote start the car from the aircraft traffic pattern.
I was unable to find an alarm the could replace the proximity security plus add the remote start and alarm sensors.
The alarm tech explained it was because the oem security uses a rolling frequency code. This way someone scanning can not pick it up and use it.
I was going to add the oem remote start .. but the range was weak and there was no 2 way communication with the alarm system. Meaning the alarm could go off and you would not know it unless you could hear it.
Some use cell service .. but I need my alarm with or without cell service so I went with a 2 way communicator one. Cell is better in a city with cell service.
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Yep that's what I'm talking about - use the fob to start the truck, then take the fob out. In my 200 the engine cuts out if there's no key and you hit the brake. Last year my wife dropped me off and home and I went inside with my key in my pocket. She put her foot on the brake the the truck shut off... she had forgotten her key so there was no fob in the vehicle. Try it with your 200.
I'll test that tomorrow on the 200 .. .. on this other car we have you can drive off with it if you do that.
What I did find out today was .. If you start the lc200 and walk away with the fob.. and the person inside locks the doors .. you can not get in using the fob even if you press the unlock button .. you need to either get that person to unlock the door .. or use the hard key.
What I did find out today was .. If you start the lc200 and walk away with the fob.. and the person inside locks the doors .. you can not get in using the fob even if you press the unlock button .. you need to either get that person to unlock the door .. or use the hard key.
FYI any of the units from Directed are no longer DIY. As of late 2017, only dealers have access to the programming software (directechs site) now.
So FYI any of these brands will need the help of a dealer.
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So FYI any of these brands will need the help of a dealer.
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Hmm, so I tested this on Sunday and you are right, the engine did not cut out. Which is really odd because it most definitely did for my wife when I walked away with the key and she was in the driver's seat before. Now I'm curious under what circumstances the engine cut off for her, because she was very confused when it happened. She definitely did not use the remote start because I was driving and exited the truck...
I didn't mean the Toyota Dealer. I meant a Directed Dealer. You mention an alarm tech so I assume you saw one to get yours installed.
The immobilizer bypass modules from directed are universal and get flashed with software that is compatible with the make/model.
Immobilizer bypass is needed for remote start. If yours was alarm only you may not have needed a bypass module.
As of Nov/Dec 2017 they only allow directed dealers access to the software needed to flash bypass modules.
When you go here and click flash module you see the directed dealer pay wall that shows up now. They used to allow anyone, for free, to register and do the basic bypass module flash. But no longer, Directed dealers only.
Directechs | Designed by installers for installers.
Just an FYI for those who may buy a unit and can't install it on their own because they're not a directed dealer.
If you buy and get it installed by a directed dealer, no issues.
The immobilizer bypass modules from directed are universal and get flashed with software that is compatible with the make/model.
Immobilizer bypass is needed for remote start. If yours was alarm only you may not have needed a bypass module.
As of Nov/Dec 2017 they only allow directed dealers access to the software needed to flash bypass modules.
When you go here and click flash module you see the directed dealer pay wall that shows up now. They used to allow anyone, for free, to register and do the basic bypass module flash. But no longer, Directed dealers only.
Directechs | Designed by installers for installers.
Just an FYI for those who may buy a unit and can't install it on their own because they're not a directed dealer.
If you buy and get it installed by a directed dealer, no issues.
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