Anyone with a tire siper I could borrow, rent or buy?

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Hi all,
I just picked up a used set of bfg km mt 255/85/16's and I'd like to sipe them:
They're un mounted now.
I'm in Victoria. Anyone have a tire shop they love, where I should get them mounted? And do you know if any shop will sipe tires locally?
Id really prefer to get them mounted and then just take the time and sipe them myself, but the 'ideal tirr groover looks to be over $120 bucks just to get it from amazon.

Any ideas? Thx for reading.
 
Go to Duncan. OK Tire right across from Toyota will sipe your tires for $20 per tire. 250.746.4488
6482 Norcross Road, Duncan. Call them, but I'm certain you have to have them mounted on a rim.
They've done my 38.5x14 TSL SX's and my Toyo MT's. Great guys,
 
thanks for the suggestion, really appreciate it.
- looking into it some more i'm getting various different DIY solutions in my head thanks to YT, especially:
this is one funny video, i just had to share it - made me laugh and wonder, actually.
 
I'm curious as to why you'd want to sipe your tires in the first place?

If it's purely for off road performance, then great.

If it's for, say, winter conditions on legal roads, then I've heard that even the "M+S" symbol is not going to be acceptable in the near future but only the Mountain Snowflake. If this is the case and you're in an accident then ICBC may not accept your claim, which would really suck.

But maybe the BFG KM's are already mountain snowflake rated...
 
I'm curious as to why you'd want to sipe your tires in the first place?

If it's purely for off road performance, then great.

If it's for, say, winter conditions on legal roads, then I've heard that even the "M+S" symbol is not going to be acceptable in the near future but only the Mountain Snowflake. If this is the case and you're in an accident then ICBC may not accept your claim, which would really suck.

But maybe the BFG KM's are already mountain snowflake rated...

Performance on all fronts. Improved traction on roads and offroad. I drove my swampers to Alberta about 4 times in the winter with
400 HP 351W and ran through the passes at 65-70 mph in my SOA 40. It was amazing the stick.
They will run at a cooler temperature.
Most of the MT's are heavy lugs, they wear fast and chunk. Siping reduces this.

Have you noticed the very best winter tires don't even have lugs? Have you looked at the sipes on them?
 
yeah what he said: i want to sipe mostly for safety in wet conditions, when comes that big puddle i cant avoid or the like.. but i like the other benefits also mentioned too.
(it does seem wrong to cut up your tires, but it really is for the better - i'll just have to accept that and view a MT as my blank canvas:D
think how much hockey would suck if we had siped hockey pucks - essentially, to me a Mud Terrain tire is like running on hockey pucks).


cooler temps, better tread life, less noise maybe, Better wet and freezing traction and to me it essentially gets a MT tire better performance and more like a beefy AT tire.
This video pretty vividly depicts the added grip under slippery, wet conditions:



235 some odd collisions a day happen in BC at intersections. (i used to be a traffic consultant) That's where I'm most careful while driving. Mountain Passes, I'm obviously not looking to break any laws, but last time i checked it didn't even snow here on the island, so by the time the bureaucrats and ICBC make any new law, im sure global warming will have something far more varied and dangerous than just mountain snowflakes :doh:

My question currently is how much is too much siping? Tire shop sipers only sipe at one rate, and that's like a sipe every 1/8th or 1/4 inch. is this what you did cruiser?

Performance on all fronts. Improved traction on roads and offroad. I drove my swampers to Alberta about 4 times in the winter with
400 HP 351W and ran through the pass


My friend recently got rid of his BFG AT KO's for the KO2 (heavy diesel truck with a camper on) and he did not like them very much. I'd met up with him in Seattle at Wintergrass and he said they are too sticky on the highway, didn't seem to want to relax and roll along and were too grippy and responsive to steering inputs on the hwy and this was driving in winter from Fernie BC, down to Seattle, from snow to dry to wet weather i assume.

What i'm thinking i'll do is sipe them myself, and i'll shoot for less siping than a KO2 and around the same as the old KO's had.

:beer: yall
 
Very cool. I didn't realize the benefits went beyond traction in winter conditions! The hockey puck analogy is helpful, as is the video. Learn something new (sometimes) everyday :-)
 
Yes, indeed it is a groover, but DYK the blades come out, and flip upside-down to make two siping blades... It's a U shaped blade to cut groves, and flip the U and it cuts two sipes on each pass.

:)
 
Yes, indeed it is a groover, but DYK the blades come out, and flip upside-down to make two siping blades... It's a U shaped blade to cut groves, and flip the U and it cuts two sipes on each pass.

:)

No, I didn't. That is a cool tool. I did not watch the video. What is that thing worth in $?
 
eBay has em, which seems better than Amazon, IMO.
Starts at 69$US +S&h, duty for a 1/4" blade set.

Or. $109 for 3 widths, or $160 for a choice of 5 different grooving widths.

It's pretty tempting, except I'm poor as! - however I got a great deal on the tires; I measured & the rubber is over an inch think from the warning strip tread thru to the inside of the BFG MT KO tire, so maybe way down the road I might look into re grooving them too.. Just a thought.

- I wonder how thick the KO2 tire is from the warming strip thru to the inside - if there's more or less rubber to the new carcas, compared with the old ones I got.
 
As for tire shops... SOS Tire on Ellice St has always been really good to me... I go there for tire work, and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. They've always had a better price than other bigger shops. They just did some work for me, including balancing the front tires on my Rig... Smooth as silk at 120 now that the bent rim was found and the tires are balanced.
 
Thanks, that sound great. Ill look em up

As for tire shops... SOS Tire on Ellice St has always been really good to me... I go there for tire work, and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. They've always had a better price than other bigger shops. They just did some work for me, including balancing the front tires on my Rig... Smooth as silk at 120 now that the bent rim was found and the tires are balanced.
 
x2 on SOS Tire. I have not done any large tires there, but for everything else they have been really great.
 
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