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Hi, yes another newbie to toyotas and landcruisers. Like ecameron87 I am interested in everything there is to know about landcruisers.

Although, I will be looking to do something a little more on the hardcore side. (this will not be a daily driver) I come from a jeep backround. I want nothing less than frt/rr lockers, 36" Iroks, winch, cage, gears, skids, etc. With the added wheel base compared to my wrangler, should I exspect to go to 39" Iroks ?

ANY suggestions for my first rig are welcome. I've been to the Badlands in Indiana, Drummond in Michigan, Silver Lake in Michigan and rescently got back from Tellico.

I always take the hardest line I can get away with and want a landcruiser that can do the same.
 
Ahh since coming from the jeep world.... then a stock LC w/ OEM diff.locks will work just fine and go anywhere the jeep went :D j/k
You've now been offically welcomed :flipoff2:

The FAQ's is the best place to start for modifications, and maintenance, enjoy.
 
welcome :flipoff2:
 
welcome to the forum. Start in the genral section of the FAQ and the newbie guide from slee offroad should get you started.
 
two_much_talk said:
I will be looking to do something a little more on the hardcore side.

should I exspect to go to 39" Iroks ?


I always take the hardest line I can get away with and want a landcruiser that can do the same.
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Slee's intro to the 80 series http://www.sleeoffroad.com/newbie/newbie100.htm

Take a good look at Slee's 6" kit (http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/80_suspension.htm), with 37" tires of your choice. You will not be disappointed. Are you also looking for a rig, or do you already have one? Although I run factory f/r lockers with no problems so far, ARB lockers have one advantage for hardcore wheelers, in that the rear diff won't have to be cut open if you twist the axle splines. My next rig (currently my wife's daily driver) will run aftermarket lockers of some sort.

The Landcruiser won't let you down.

-Spike
 
Thanks guys ! Looks like I have some research to do ... no worries ... I'm game.

Don't have a Landcruiser yet. Still rollin the 97 Wrangler for now. I forsee a change though ... jeeps are getting very old news for me.

I've seen alot of you note Slee's Offroad. Is that a local shop for you guys ? Or simply one of the best places to get parts ?
 
What kind of flex can I expect out of the control arms on a cruiser? Its a completely different set up than I'm used to. Also, how does this set up react to lift kits? Jeep guys are always fighting control arm lengths as the lifts get bigger. Ergo all the long arm kits on the market for jeeps.
 
The arms on the LC are already long- I'd guess they are longer than the long-arm kits I've seen on Cherokees. Flex is limited somewhat, but 3-linking will give you way more than stock, if you really want to get crazy. There are several ways to improve front flex a little, like replacing the old hardened rubber bushings or removing one bolt of the four on the axle (I've not done either yet). The rear is 4 linked and has pretty good flex stock, and there are some aftermarket parts that can improve even that (again, I haven't gone there yet). My rig is set up with the 6" Slee lift, no other trick parts, and tucked bumpers. I'm not here to bash on Jeeps, so I'll just say I've yet to be left behind by one as long as he didn't use a winch. That's my next big mod. :D

Christo Slee is a dedicated Cruiserhead who sells (and installs, if you're lucky enough to live in the area) many aftermarket parts including many his company makes, along with other aftermarket brands. I give him props because he always is willing to help, he's into the sport himself, and I have purchased from him and am impressed with the quality. There are quite a few companies selling LC stuff, look around the board for ideas.

-Spike
 
-Spike- said:
The arms on the LC are already long- I'd guess they are longer than the long-arm kits I've seen on Cherokees. Flex is limited somewhat, but 3-linking will give you way more than stock, if you really want to get crazy.

-Spike
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That's what I was thinking. Three linked or double wishbone front and rear.

Landcruisers run track bars front and rear, correct?
 
-Spike- said:
My rig is set up with the 6" Slee lift, no other trick parts, and tucked bumpers. I'm not here to bash on Jeeps, so I'll just say I've yet to be left behind by one as long as he didn't use a winch. That's my next big mod. :D .

-Spike
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No offense but I've heard that before. But only at the bottom of a hill or beginning of an abstacle. . . . . :D

I can honestly say that I only had to use my winch once in Tellico. Slick Rock, Guardrail, Rockgarden, Hellicopter Pad - no winch !

We started trail 6 at 11pm and I got through PeckerWood no problem but The Ledge .... I had to winch. Even used my snatch block for the first time to be safe !

I followed a Toyota truck through the Rockgarden. He was rollin beadlocked 44's on a 14 bolt rr and 60 front with and a 350 for starters ... that is not my style of wheeling . We overheard a couple other guys with overbuilt rigs that were pissin and moning about us not having any problems with the smallest rigs through that day. (that made and didn't have any problems)
 
The weight of the 80 is going to be the biggest stumbling block for you if you are used to a Jeep. Running 39's on an 80 takes some doing. Can be done though, but you will find all the weak spots of the 80 pretty fast. See
http://www.sleeoffroad.com/trails/penrose_2005/penrose_main.htm for pictures of my truck.

This is what it looks like now.
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reffug said:
:flipoff2:

I hope your user name is not indicative of what is to come..................:doh:
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All right, I wasn't going to do this because I'm not sure how jeep friendly this board is yet ... but my screen name is what it is for a reason ... I don't have much patience sometimes ...

I bought a 97 Tj in 2000 and only waited 6 months before I started planning the mods. 6 months later it was 5" higher on 33's, with a rear locker in the swapped in Ford 8.8 axle. From there the list of mods goes on and on ... no I'm not all talk ...

http://c4x4.com/ <---- I'm the featured "Readers Rig" on C4x4.com
Not as wild as the Slee truck, but pretty capable none the less ...
 
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Sleeoffroad -
Sweet rig ! I know it will take some doing to get to 39's. But I like more than a budget boost and 33's. I've been wheeling my jeep on 36's and frt/rr lockers for a while and like the performance.

Your right though - I've thought about the weight difference a lot ! My jeep doesn't have carpet, rear seat, center console, rear bumper, etc. It doesn't weigh much.

One of the things our club here does is car crushes for youth groups. The first one I did - I didn't even break the glass on the saturn I drove over !!
 
TiredIronGRB said:
39.5 IROKs are the way to go:D
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IS THIS YOUR RIG ! YOUR MY NEW BEST FRIEND ! :D :D

So tell me about the weak points that will have to be dealt with going this big ? I'm assuming I'll have to locate a full floater rear. As well chromoly shaft frt/rr and axle trussing are going to be mandatory.
 
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TiredIronGRB -

Where in TN are you ? I was just down to Tellico Plains over the 4th of July...
 
two_much_talk said:
I'm assuming I'll have to locate a full floater rear.
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Yes you are definately assuming.....................:doh:

You need to become aquainted with the search funtion.

Also the ROTW's already featured here in the forum.

Dat truck is a freak. A definative FREAK!

TiredIron is having a little fun with your zeal and lack of being informed.
 
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