80 Series bumpers list in a spreadsheet (1 Viewer)

[Delta VS]

I'm looking for an adequate, inexpensive bumper for my daughter's High School cruiser and I discovered in my multi-hour search that a lot-most-ok, all, the threads are out of date and it's tough to find current offerings outside the big 3. I compiled a google spreadsheet with the info that was important to me and thought it might be useful to others. I've made it so that anyone with the link can update it, so feel free to add columns for important features. I want the cheapest with protective hoops since my kids seem to damage the fenders and hood up high...and I'm not innocent myself.

I'm done with it, so feel free to add to it, correct it, etc. It might be cool to have another sheet for rear bumpers, sliders, whatever. If it violates any rules I'm unaware of I'll happily unshare it. Just let me know.

*EDIT*: With this being a publicly shared sheet, please keep any commentary objective and something the vendors wouldn't mind being seen. Dates are good for reference. Nobody likes to see old info and think it's new. I scrubbed my personal commentary out of the sheet. "Just the facts, ma'am."

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docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12AayjtEsO-bqdDr2NYUQ2TYRvhWYI-vpPhO3K0YKYJo/edit?usp=drivesdk



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I'll update this sometimes because I like to, but really, it's like the kitchen at work. Learn to clean the freakin' microwave! Feel free to update the sheet with info you find.

Nice work! I adjusted/added some info on ours.

 

[BILT4ME]

Although it is a great deal with the consumer, I have no idea how they do that, except to sell stuff and extremely low margins and try to do volume. I know what we pay for the bumper and there is not enough margin in to have free shipping. I do know that they do mostly, if not all sales as drop ships. So they never have to handle the product, and probably never have to supply any tech support on installation.

What is worse the NMFTA recently reclassified all auto parts NMFC classes and all steel bumpers and nerf bars (running boards) ship in higher freight classes (125 vs 85) than what it did before, so now all freight of bumpers are way more to ship then 3 months ago.

As a supplier, you can reclassify what you are shipping and they cannot change it. If you do NOT classify it, then they (the trucking company) can classify it how THEY interpret the description.

I work with industrial equipment and we ship equipment and components all over the world. If you do a little research and purchase the NMFC code book ($300-$500), do a bit of research and establish a code and sub# that can cover your shipment with a slightly more vague description.

"Fabricated Steel Parts" is one we commonly use and can get into the 85 or below classification, sometimes as low as 65.

If you actually write the NMFC code number with it's sub-category, then the trucking company CANNOT change it. It COULD affect your value if you have a claim or the amount of claim you get to keep, but if you work the numbers and go with the odds, then the odds will be forever in your favor.

We do this with a lot of our equipment. We are not "lying" about what it is. Depending on "what it is called" will determine it's value. A "bumper" can also be the lightweight sheet metal version that is formed to a body style and easily bent or damaged in handling, when a robust bumper such as the Slee Shortbus will NOT incur damage. Then the freight company is making more money on that freight because their risk is actually lower than they are portraying it to be.

Many of our fabricators ship parts out to other fabricators and end up with as low as class 25 because they are heavy, thick chunks of plate that are not easily damaged and they take up little room (referred to as "cubic weight") based on how heavy they are.

One code we use a lot is 114090, class 85 (I can't find the sub-class right now) but this is for some dust collection equipment. However, when we ship airlocks (heavy cast iron chinks with a motor) we get to 50870, class 60.

Just a way to reduce the cost to the end user by knowing a little more on the front end.

Freight cost is a big part of how we get orders because we build and ship millions of dollars worth of equipment to job sites and if you can keep the cost low to the end user by reducing freight, it's a win-win. We recently had a project where we could reduce the total cost to a job site by $75,000. This was by moving the production across the country (farther away), reducing the freight costs and reducing the production costs. It seems totally counter-intuitive, but it works because of labor costs in some areas of the country.

 

[MDarius]

Nice work! I adjusted/added some info on ours.

Thanks! And thanks for correcting your info. That's the best!

As a supplier, you can reclassify what you are shipping and they cannot change it. If you do NOT classify it, then they (the trucking company) can classify it how THEY interpret the description...

Bilt4me, dude! We should hang. I'm a long time supply chain and logistics geek! I try to hide it in public, but sometimes, when I'm driving down the freeway, and I see a truck or a train...I start spouting off codes and talking about the new spare tire slide and customs delays and distribution/manufacturing practices and why they should have built that here instead of there...wait...is this in a public thread?? I thought I was PM'ing you! Doh!

I mean...Bumpers! Lifts! "grunt"!

 

[bub m]

I’m going with the TJM 17 from Slee. I saw bumper .com but figured Slee supports my hobby.
Even better is my wife is getting it for me for Christmas! I called them and set up a order and now she just has to call with the money!! Shipping to Ct was all in delivered at $790. That’s fair.

 

[RFB]

I'm looking for an adequate, inexpensive bumper for my daughter's High School cruiser and I discovered in my multi-hour search that a lot-most-ok, all, the threads are out of date and it's tough to find current offerings outside the big 3. I compiled a google spreadsheet with the info that was important to me and thought it might be useful to others. I've made it so that anyone with the link can update it, so feel free to add columns for important features. I want the cheapest with protective hoops since my kids seem to damage the fenders and hood up high...and I'm not innocent myself.

I'm done with it, so feel free to add to it, correct it, etc. It might be cool to have another sheet for rear bumpers, sliders, whatever. If it violates any rules I'm unaware of I'll happily unshare it. Just let me know.

*EDIT*: With this being a publicly shared sheet, please keep any commentary objective and something the vendors wouldn't mind being seen. Dates are good for reference. Nobody likes to see old info and think it's new. I scrubbed my personal commentary out of the sheet. "Just the facts, ma'am."

Copy the link to your browser and add "https://"

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12AayjtEsO-bqdDr2NYUQ2TYRvhWYI-vpPhO3K0YKYJo/edit?usp=drivesdk



*Note: To add pictures to a Google sheet, select the cell, then "Insert > Image > Image In Cell > By URL" from the menu. Right click on your picture and "Copy Image address" and paste it in the URL text box on the google sheet. Easy Peasy.

I'll update this sometimes because I like to, but really, it's like the kitchen at work. Learn to clean the freakin' microwave! Feel free to update the sheet with info you find.

very well done, I saved it. Im doing a video on dual swingouts avail for 80 as well.

 

[Railwelder93]

I like how the only benefit listed for the Ironman bumper is that it adds an additional 107 lbs

 

[bwesty]

I’m going with the TJM 17 from Slee. I saw bumper .com but figured Slee supports my hobby.
Even better is my wife is getting it for me for Christmas! I called them and set up a order and now she just has to call with the money!! Shipping to Ct was all in delivered at $790. That’s fair.

Plus Slee stands behind it and offers the community great parts, service and support. Definitely worth the price.

 

[sleeoffroad]

As a supplier, you can reclassify what you are shipping and they cannot change it. If you do NOT classify it, then they (the trucking company) can classify it how THEY interpret the description.

If you actually write the NMFC code number with it's sub-category, then the trucking company CANNOT change it. It COULD affect your value if you have a claim or the amount of claim you get to keep, but if you work the numbers and go with the odds, then the odds will be forever in your favor.

Actually UPS Freight did. My UPS bill pays automatically via credit card and the only way I caught is is that suddenly the bill was double what it is normally. They reclassified the shipments. Apparently they have the right to do so, according to our UPS rep. I would love to get some info on what you mentioned, re: that they cannot change it.

The NMFC code we used was replaced with new codes and based on those and the densities of our packed products, we can't get it lower than class 125.

 

[MDarius]

Actually UPS Freight did. My UPS bill pays automatically via credit card and the only way I caught is is that suddenly the bill was double what it is normally. They reclassified the shipments. Apparently they have the right to do so, according to our UPS rep. I would love to get some info on what you mentioned, re: that they cannot change it.

The NMFC code we used was replaced with new codes and based on those and the densities of our packed products, we can't get it lower than class 125.

UPS is notorious for reclassifying freight and charging for reweighs, reclass, looking at it twice. Sometimes if you go after them you can get it corrected, but they are the 800 lb. Gorilla.

It's the density that gets you. The NMFC (I'm going off old knowledge, it's been a while since I dealt with it.) was designed to deal with cube, value, and density. You can classify your own products within the NMFC, but if they fall outside the cube or density of that class a motor carrier can reclassify them. If you believe your classification is correct you can get an NMFC ruling on your freight, then it sticks. The expense here is time and research, and possibly a consultant.

You can also work with a 3PL to get the best classification possible. Preferably one that doesn't also operate an LTL business of their own. The classification can be argued differently if the product is painted or bare metal, for example. Painted is a finished product, bare can be a product that is a raw material, or work in process and can get a different classification. If the product is only 80% assembled you can argue a different class than if it's 100% assembled. There a lot of loopholes, and some acceptable changes in manufacturing or shipping practice can be enough to take advantage of them. I'm rusty on the NMFC so I'm not the right guy to help sort it out. A sales call from a full service 3PL that offers air and ground services, and a hungry and experienced salesman, might be enough to get that solution for the cost of a couple free lunches and a tour of your products and operation, or a little drive in a Land Cruiser up in the hills behind Golden.

 

[BILT4ME]

Actually UPS Freight did. My UPS bill pays automatically via credit card and the only way I caught is is that suddenly the bill was double what it is normally. They reclassified the shipments. Apparently they have the right to do so, according to our UPS rep. I would love to get some info on what you mentioned, re: that they cannot change it.

The NMFC code we used was replaced with new codes and based on those and the densities of our packed products, we can't get it lower than class 125.

I will see if I can find that information.

Might take me a while.

 

[sleeoffroad]

Unfortunately I think we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We have standarised our large boxes to two sizes and how we back with foam/ corrugated cardboard in boxes on custom pallets has caused the density values to make it go higher classes. If we just strapped the bumper to a pallet then we could ship a lot cheaper.

However since we went to the packaging we now have we have just about zero freight damage. The only issue is if a stupid forklift driver sticks the forks through the box.

 

[bub m]

Unfortunately I think we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We have standarised our large boxes to two sizes and how we back with foam/ corrugated cardboard in boxes on custom pallets has caused the density values to make it go higher classes. If we just strapped the bumper to a pallet then we could ship a lot cheaper.

However since we went to the packaging we now have we have just about zero freight damage. The only issue is if a stupid forklift driver sticks the forks through the box.

Fingers crossed, I ordered mine today from you. Thanks again!

 

[jfz80]

Yea, that was an oopsie. Here are the 80 series bumpers from them.

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That's their 80 Series restoration advertising page. What's interesting is I searched around their site and didn't find any pages specific to the bumpers they build for the 80, and some they show in their pictures that are unique and I haven't seen anywhere else. I did add them to the spreadsheet after I got the email and some pictures.

agree. Just a generic info page on their services and general f(no z)j80 info. No product info and that one shot looks pretty Darn identical to an arb rear bumper with the sticker even if you weren’t distracted by the blingin rims :/

 

[jayntguru]

I did not see these guys mentioned, they have a rear bumper for 80's.

SoFlo Bumpers

SoFlo Bumpers, Coral Springs, Florida. 1,314 likes · 5 talking about this. Winch Bumpers Rear Swing Out Bumpers / Carriers Roof Racks Pocket Style Fender Flares Step/Sliders/Fender Guards Drawer...

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[MDarius]

I did not see these guys mentioned, they have a rear bumper for 80's.

SoFlo Bumpers

SoFlo Bumpers, Coral Springs, Florida. 1,314 likes · 5 talking about this. Winch Bumpers Rear Swing Out Bumpers / Carriers Roof Racks Pocket Style Fender Flares Step/Sliders/Fender Guards Drawer...

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Thanks! I reached out to him and he replied within a couple minutes. He's focusing on Racks, Rear Bumpers, and pocket flares for the 80's. It sounds like he'd be willing to build or fab something if requested. I think if this expands to other accessories he's a great add.

 

[MDarius]

Thanks! I reached out to him and he replied within a couple minutes. He's focusing on Racks, Rear Bumpers, and pocket flares for the 80's. It sounds like he'd be willing to build or fab something if requested. I think if this expands to other accessories he's a great add.

Oh look! Someone added a tab for rear bumpers! Excellent. Sounds like he's a good add now! Thanks for the update!

 

[bub m]

I did not see these guys mentioned, they have a rear bumper for 80's.

SoFlo Bumpers

SoFlo Bumpers, Coral Springs, Florida. 1,314 likes · 5 talking about this. Winch Bumpers Rear Swing Out Bumpers / Carriers Roof Racks Pocket Style Fender Flares Step/Sliders/Fender Guards Drawer...

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Those look exactly like Dobinson

 

[efjayatee]

I'm looking for an adequate, inexpensive bumper for my daughter's High School cruiser and I discovered in my multi-hour search that a lot-most-ok, all, the threads are out of date and it's tough to find current offerings outside the big 3. I compiled a google spreadsheet with the info that was important to me and thought it might be useful to others. I've made it so that anyone with the link can update it, so feel free to add columns for important features. I want the cheapest with protective hoops since my kids seem to damage the fenders and hood up high...and I'm not innocent myself.

I'm done with it, so feel free to add to it, correct it, etc. It might be cool to have another sheet for rear bumpers, sliders, whatever. If it violates any rules I'm unaware of I'll happily unshare it. Just let me know.

*EDIT*: With this being a publicly shared sheet, please keep any commentary objective and something the vendors wouldn't mind being seen. Dates are good for reference. Nobody likes to see old info and think it's new. I scrubbed my personal commentary out of the sheet. "Just the facts, ma'am."

Copy the link to your browser and add "https://"

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12AayjtEsO-bqdDr2NYUQ2TYRvhWYI-vpPhO3K0YKYJo/edit?usp=drivesdk



*Note: To add pictures to a Google sheet, select the cell, then "Insert > Image > Image In Cell > By URL" from the menu. Right click on your picture and "Copy Image address" and paste it in the URL text box on the google sheet. Easy Peasy.

I'll update this sometimes because I like to, but really, it's like the kitchen at work. Learn to clean the freakin' microwave! Feel free to update the sheet with info you find.

Avid 80 series front bumper (70-80lbs)
Avid 80 series rear bumper (150lbs depends on attachments and spare tire)

 

[6894kevin]

not sure if they are on mud but I texted with this co about bumpers a week or so ago on instagram. Apparently, they were originally in S America and now they are doing distributions from FL for bumpers and other stuff

BT4X4 | Accesorios 4x4 🚩 (@bt4x4) • Instagram photos and videos

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[6894kevin]

Curious anyone delt with them before??