40 series rain gutter replacement idea

[arnott1t]

Hey gents and ladies,

I have a troopy under the knife and will soon be desperate for replacement rain gutters that are extra long.

Since the shape of the gutters is pretty simple I got thinking about my options for replacing them. What I came up with was using rectangular tubing split down the short side lengthwise. This would yield me 2 gutters from on length of tube.

The tubing I can get is 1"tall by 3" wide. My thought is to have an offset split. Meaning have the outer side stick up 1/4-3/8" and the inside the balance. This would be similar to the factory gutters.

This new gutter would be 1/2 an inch wider towards the interior since the original gutter is only 2.5 inches wide. Big deal I say

My other concern is the tubing thickness is .100 thou. That's nearly double the factory. I wouldn't think it matters but something to consider??


So the plan would be to make lengths of gutter then cut, bend, and dent things till they replace the old gutters


Is this a terrible idea?

 

[JohnnyC]

Not a terrible idea

I believe Alex @SouthBostonFJ40 had some made at one time that were thicker than stock... Can't recall how thick however

Thicker can also withstand a beating a bit better than oem with say a casual resting on the side of a tree we have tight trails in the upper north east

 

[arnott1t]

Well went after rain gutters today

Some of the old

Profile of the new

Test fitting

Tacked and needing some more work

Have them all tacked together and roughly clamped into place. Next is remove and finish them up some. Need to decide how to seal the glass to the gutter. Likely go machine screw route with loctite I figure.

All and all it went really well. Tubing started at 1.5"x3". Cut outer rail to be 1/2" high and inner flange is Nearly 1"

 

[peteinjp]

Good start you got going there. 90° corners like to crack so I would add a gusset. Also I prime it and paint or seal it before attaching it to the roof. Then look for some UV resistant Marine grade sealant like Sikaflex or a good 3M product something that's going to hold up long so you don't have to do it again.

Keep it up!

Pete

 

[CarDude]

Well went after rain gutters today

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Some of the old

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Profile of the new

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Test fitting

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Tacked and needing some more work

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Have them all tacked together and roughly clamped into place. Next is remove and finish them up some. Need to decide how to seal the glass to the gutter. Likely go machine screw route with loctite I figure.

All and all it went really well. Tubing started at 1.5"x3". Cut outer rail to be 1/2" high and inner flange is Nearly 1"

I am looking into this stuff called panel bond. Car manufacturers use it and body shops.its my understanding this stuff is as strong as welding. I like the idea of it because it will not allow water to get between the glass and the gutter. I still need to do some more research on it.

 

[CarDude]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/super-glues-are-the-secret-to-making-cars-lighter-1410196062

 

[SouthBostonFJ40]

Nice work!

3M Fast n'Firm sealer is good to use on the top side to seal the fiberglass and the channel.

 

[Living in the Past]

You don't say your location but I've just removed a damaged troopy gutter. While damage it didn't have any rust. I plan on using it to replace a rust FJ40 gutter. I just need to get my press setup to repair the damage. What I did notice is the troopy gutter appears to be the same as the FJ40 with a extra piece added in the B pillar location. To get it in my vehicle I just used a hack saw and joint at the small welds at the back of the extra section. Do go the other way using a FJ40 to replace one for a Troopy you just need the extra section. Looking at the troopy side panels it really looks like they used two FJ40 straight sections added together.
Here is a picture of the poor troopy.

 

[CarDude]

Nice work!

3M Fast n'Firm sealer is good to use on the top side to seal the fiberglass and the channel.

Have you used it? And if so did you still use the aluminum revets?
Thanks

 

[SouthBostonFJ40]

Personally used, no. Sold lots of it along with the rivets when I sold my rain gutter kits.

 

[Weber Sarge]

What the heck did that Troopy hit , a Road Train ???
Sarge

 

[arnott1t]

Well did final assembly yesterday. Even mounted my new rtt while the sealer was still a little soft

And finally just a profile for the gutter

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[Living in the Past]

Looks like it came out great. Mounting a RTT probably better off with new metal than old bend metal that was pressed back into shape.

What the heck did that Troopy hit , a Road Train ???
Sarge

I was never able to find out what hadn't in the accident. A picture of this troopy was posted in our club section shortly before the accident. Then a picture right after the accident. This picture was posted once it hit the wrecking yard. It would have been cheaper for me to have bought the whole thing at auction but wife would have never allowed another vehicle. It was a 6/84 HJ47. FF rear axle with a PTO winch. Was a shame to see it parted out but the frame was pretty badly bent and cracked.

 

[Bas Zuidberg]

Hi Arnott1t

How is that gutter holding up after 3 years? Curious to hear if you have any feedback on what you would do differently in hindsight!

Thanks

 

[arnott1t]

Holding up very well. No leaks and still seems very strong, All and all it turned out awesome

 

[Bas Zuidberg]

Good to hear! Thanks for the write up. Appreciate it!

 

[mtquivr]

I remember someone did this several years ago but they used stainless steel tubing...no more rust worries.

 

[DylanZ]

is that just black carpet for a headlining? thinking about doing the same

 

[bikersmurf]

Many have used carpet.

I used a fleece blanket that had some stretch... it did the job with no seems or folds. I bought a $7 blanket from Zellers. To do it over I’d have spent a bit more and bought a color I liked more.

 

[mrjordann]

You don't say your location but I've just removed a damaged troopy gutter. While damage it didn't have any rust. I plan on using it to replace a rust FJ40 gutter. I just need to get my press setup to repair the damage. What I did notice is the troopy gutter appears to be the same as the FJ40 with a extra piece added in the B pillar location. To get it in my vehicle I just used a hack saw and joint at the small welds at the back of the extra section. Do go the other way using a FJ40 to replace one for a Troopy you just need the extra section. Looking at the troopy side panels it really looks like they used two FJ40 straight sections added together.
Here is a picture of the poor troopy.
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Holy hell. Did they put a bomb inside it?