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Maybe.
RECALL 25LA07 (25LB07 Interim Notice) - Engine Recall - UPDATED: DEC 18, 2025
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I've spoken directly to the owner in said thread on Tundras, so yes, that is my source.
There is also a 2025 in Canada that had a failure in the 1,600 mile range.
All 2022-2025 V35As, whether from Tahara or Alabama, have the issue. i-FORCE or i-FORCE MAX doesn't matter as they utilize the same short block.
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Yup. Anything Mid 2025 and after MIGHT not have any engine issues. We don't know yet.
That is as far as you will get, probably.
Honestly, as a late 2025 LX700H buyer, I am little concerned with this potential-maybe-could've-kinda engine issue 3 years later after the problem has been identified. I have enough confidence in Lexus/Toyota to not believe that, after knowing of this issue for the last 3 years, they have not changed the process that initially caused it and are currently installing engines plagued by the same issue. I mean, why would any manufacturer knowingly do that and be exposed to endless recalls in the future? Not to mention furthering the reputational damage nightmare which is already in full force.
Either I am in a third or fourth recall and get a new engine or not and still have until 2031 (when my car will probably be close to 70kmiles) for some "issue" to happen with the engine and have it replaced/repaired under warranty. After 2031, we still have the option of buying an extended warranty. I doubt that any other Toyota/Lexus buyer are in a better situation just because they do not have the V35A under their hoods. All of the new turbo/hybrid engine being installed these days are subject to failures. Hell, even the venerable V8 under the 200s hood face repeated issues with the head gaskets years later.
MRego - I'm with you.
Fact: They have known about this issue for many years. Recall is evidence.
Opinion: They are trying to fix it.
Fact: The truck segment is their most profitable segment, and the US is the biggest market.
Opinion: They will do a lot to protect the golden goose. They likely are freaking the f out.
Fact: They f ed up major league big time, Its costing massive pain in dollars (engines), loss of service techs, and this will lead to lower sales.
Opinion: They have a massive number of engineering nerds (not YouTube guys) whose actual job is metallurgy and engine building working around the clock to fix this.
Final Opinion: I trust in Toyota's self interest and its very very very much in their self interest to make this engine work. I'm going to enjoy a kick ass truck and not sweat it.
Fact: They have known about this issue for many years. Recall is evidence.
Opinion: They are trying to fix it.
Fact: The truck segment is their most profitable segment, and the US is the biggest market.
Opinion: They will do a lot to protect the golden goose. They likely are freaking the f out.
Fact: They f ed up major league big time, Its costing massive pain in dollars (engines), loss of service techs, and this will lead to lower sales.
Opinion: They have a massive number of engineering nerds (not YouTube guys) whose actual job is metallurgy and engine building working around the clock to fix this.
Final Opinion: I trust in Toyota's self interest and its very very very much in their self interest to make this engine work. I'm going to enjoy a kick ass truck and not sweat it.
I can’t believe they went all-in on the V35A without it being bulletproof. I’m confident in their design and testing, so maybe it is something in manufacturing. However, rumors of part number changes suggest differently.
Just mind blowing that they stuck this engine in Tundras, LX600, GX550, LC300s. Those are the vehicles that evoke a sense or reliability and they are doing some serious damage to that reputation.
Just mind blowing that they stuck this engine in Tundras, LX600, GX550, LC300s. Those are the vehicles that evoke a sense or reliability and they are doing some serious damage to that reputation.
It's been a pretty well known issue for a while now. YTD Tundra and Sequoia sales are slightly down from last year (3-5%), but then again GX and LX sales are up.
The last time I bought a brand new Toyota was 2010 during the height of the unintended acceleration hysteria. I scored pretty good. I have no idea what current inventory looks like, but if I was in the market for a full size pickup within the next year or two I would absolutely try my luck right now negotiating on a new Tundra.
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Well, your confidence is misplaced. I use to be that way too, but the new Toyota/Lexus is not the Toyota/Lexus of old.
The Defect Information Report for the latest 25LA07 recall. All the information in the report is from April 2025 through October 2025.
Debris of larger sizes is/was still present at both Tahara and Alabama.
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The App says my 24 LX, purchased 2/24 is on the list. I'm not sure what that means. I sent oil at 35K to Blackstone and the report was good.
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The LX is included up to April 2024, so for @dms, it wouldn't matter.
Ok so I read the report twice here is my reading:
1. The problem really is debris created during the manufacturing process. If the debris is of a certain size and happens to lodge in the #1 main bearing it will fail.
2. They implemented process improvements at Alabama and continue to, at Tahara they made them after initial recall.
3. They also created a more robust #1 main bearing and that went in engines made in both plants.
4. They are very specific that between the first set of process improvements and the time when they made the part change is where the problem was/is.
My reading:
1. I would buy a tundra. New part that seems to help and lots of process improvement.
"These analyses showed that the subsequent
period, after additional manufacturing process improvements were introduced, had lower counts
of debris of these larger sizes."
2. I feel a lot better about a new LX. There is of course a non zero chance you could get a bad one but new part and process improvements are big. It also seems like they were much more worried about Alabama as they did daily swab tests on those engines but didn't feel it necessary to do it in Tahara.
Most important for new buyers of LX owners:
"
For the Tahara plant, data from the recovered engines,
study about the bearing robustness, and the field performance data indicate that an increased
level of this type of debris is present in engines produced between recall 24V-381 and the
implementation of the improvement to the #1 main bearing."
1. The problem really is debris created during the manufacturing process. If the debris is of a certain size and happens to lodge in the #1 main bearing it will fail.
2. They implemented process improvements at Alabama and continue to, at Tahara they made them after initial recall.
3. They also created a more robust #1 main bearing and that went in engines made in both plants.
4. They are very specific that between the first set of process improvements and the time when they made the part change is where the problem was/is.
My reading:
1. I would buy a tundra. New part that seems to help and lots of process improvement.
"These analyses showed that the subsequent
period, after additional manufacturing process improvements were introduced, had lower counts
of debris of these larger sizes."
2. I feel a lot better about a new LX. There is of course a non zero chance you could get a bad one but new part and process improvements are big. It also seems like they were much more worried about Alabama as they did daily swab tests on those engines but didn't feel it necessary to do it in Tahara.
Most important for new buyers of LX owners:
"
For the Tahara plant, data from the recovered engines,
study about the bearing robustness, and the field performance data indicate that an increased
level of this type of debris is present in engines produced between recall 24V-381 and the
implementation of the improvement to the #1 main bearing."
Interesting. It sounds like Alabama was behind Tahara on implementing the manufacturing process improvements. And also behind on updating their line to receive and install the "improved #1 main bearing". (hillbillies...)
As a result the recall for Tundra's could still be expanded to additional units - up until Alabama started installing the updated main bearing, which they don't tell us when this occurred.
While the affected production periods for Tahara models should be finalized.
Regardless, -if- you take Toyota's word, any NEW Tahara or Alabama made model should be good by now.
As a result the recall for Tundra's could still be expanded to additional units - up until Alabama started installing the updated main bearing, which they don't tell us when this occurred.
While the affected production periods for Tahara models should be finalized.
Regardless, -if- you take Toyota's word, any NEW Tahara or Alabama made model should be good by now.
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And yet the #1 Main Bearing continues to fail, including a 2025 model year Tundra TRD Pro. The issue was not resolved in the 2025 model year, whether from Tahara or Alabama.
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Tahara is ALWAYS going to be ahead of Alabama when it comes to changes.
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This is called Japanese pride.
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It looks like my build date was 11/23. I was worried about hitting the 50K mile mark next month and warranty coverage. Now it looks like that problem may have been solved. It will be interesting to see if they have any issues with the fact that I had them use 5w30 at my 40K oil change.
What? Taking the document at face value the 2025 Tahara models are most definitely resolved.
With Alabama / Tundra it's a little less clear, because again, we don't know when Alabama began installing the improved #1 bearing.