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The amount of brain power I've spent on this topic made me laugh today. I'm legitimately retardmaxxing. Well, you are right, almost everything is opinion at this point, we are just random consumers who have day jobs. But I do think we can agree on two FACTS:Yes, it is a pain in the butt, but it is finite and achievable. A "negative proof" would be if the proof would be unachievable due to some infinities, such as proving no other life exists in the universe, because the universe is infinite. I don't expect you to go look at every tundra, this comment was to show that you have no idea what a "negative proof" involves.
Again, you claimed a point first, so you need to show proof of your claim before asking me for proof of my challenge. Where is Toyota's official report saying that the bearing improvements fixed the problem? You can't find any, because it doesn't exist. You are making a claim without evidence, presenting your speculation as fact, all the while yelling at whoever dares question you to give the evidence that you can't even provide yourself. This is, quite frankly, pathetic.
There is a world of difference between you and Snowman (sorry to talk about you as though you're not here). Snowman clearly stated his OPINION that the bearings fixed the problem. I am happy to disagree with him but I respect his opinion.
What I do not respect, however, is you presenting your opinion as fact. For example, your characterisation of the bearing change as a "much more robust", when there is zero official data out from Toyota describing the efficacy of the changes. There is, in fact, no data even regarding what these changes are, so you would have no idea if the changes are robust or not, even if you were an automotive engineer.
The only thing Toyota said about the bearing is that the bearings have been "improved", which is exactly the same language they used to describe the machining processes which turned out to do nothing to solve the problem.
Buying a car is difficult and expensive. There are too many ad men out there lying to you to make a quick buck. It is already enough without people like you shilling and hallucinating facts more than chatgpt.
The amount of brain power I've spent on this topic made me laugh today. I'm legitimately retardmaxxing. Well, you are right, almost everything is opinion at this point, we are just random consumers who have day jobs. But I do think we can agree on two FACTS:
1. The gas tank is to small. If Toyota has committed a crime it's this.
2. The front grill should be re-imagined. Fact. I say it with love
Yeah. Keep looking at the AI response you got. You will see that what you asked me is to show evidence that something did not occur I.e. no v35as post improved bearings blew up. It’s there too and it is the very definition of negative proof in terms of investigations - not mathematics as you suggest.A "negative proof" would be if the proof would be unachievable due to some infinities, such as proving no other life exists in the universe, because the universe is infinite. I don't expect you to go look at every tundra, this comment was to show that you have no idea what a "negative proof" involves.
Not how it works at all. I am not yelling at anybody. Go back and find full sentences in caps. When I use words in caps I do to add emphasis, obviously. I think you are projecting your own attitude, because in my view YOU are the one making a claim (v35as post bearing improvement are failing left and right) without concrete evidence, based only on social media posts and challenging people that disagree with you - again without a single credible proof to base your challenge. I won’t say it’s pathetic because I would like to keep this civil and respectful.Again, you claimed a point first, so you need to show proof of your claim before asking me for proof of my challenge. Where is Toyota's official report saying that the bearing improvements fixed the problem? You can't find any, because it doesn't exist. You are making a claim without evidence, presenting your speculation as fact, all the while yelling at whoever dares question you to give the evidence that you can't even provide yourself. This is, quite frankly, pathetic.
I was at the Lexus dealership in Lindon Utah yesterday finishing the paperwork on my OT. Sales person said they are a year out and are mostly just trying to bring in used ones and selling them for over 100k. I get the GX has a good look to it…. And is on paper cheaper. Pound for pound a very good buy…. But after having a 600 and riding in a GX, I couldn’t do a GX over an Lx. And having a tundra non hybrid and a sequoia pro with the hybrid, I’m a huge fan of the hybrid. Just don’t like the hybrids not included in the recall.Who cares about Alabama built Tundras? Are there any recent year GX or LX main bearing failures?
In the real world folks don't seem too worried. GX is still a multi month wait to get one. I've seen reports of up to a year long wait in some markets. And there are no deals on them either. MSRP is a good deal.
Honestly, to wrap up this whole back and forth, we should just agree to disagree. You and I have had discussions in the past here and it is quite obvious we have very different standards in terms of what to accept as evidence and how much should one rely on social media these days.
Let’s just keep it civil and on topic. Just keep enjoying your OT and don’t fret about the engine. At least that’s what I am doing.![]()
I was at the Lexus dealership in Lindon Utah yesterday finishing the paperwork on my OT. Sales person said they are a year out and are mostly just trying to bring in used ones and selling them for over 100k. I get the GX has a good look to it…. And is on paper cheaper. Pound for pound a very good buy…. But after having a 600 and riding in a GX, I couldn’t do a GX over an Lx. And having a tundra non hybrid and a sequoia pro with the hybrid, I’m a huge fan of the hybrid. Just don’t like the hybrids not included in the recall.
Hey you are the one that started the essays.Sounds nice, but here's the thing - if you really were interested in "agreeing to disagree" to "wrap this up", that's all you would have said and we could have left it at that. Instead, you wrote an essay because what you really wanted was to have the last word. Another bad faith argument which won't earn any respect from me.
Agree. Given the forum where we are, we should definitely focus on the 300s. At least in terms of LXs 25 and up, I have not heard of any cases. Not even social media. Yes, people are going nuts on these pre-owned GXs for $100k, which to me is just loony when you can spend the same for a preowned LX OT or even spring a bit more and get a brand new.Who cares about Alabama built Tundras? Are there any recent year GX or LX main bearing failures?
In the real world folks don't seem too worried. GX is still a multi month wait to get one. I've seen reports of up to a year long wait in some markets. And there are no deals on them either. MSRP is a good deal.
Feel the same way. The GX550 isn't even as sold feeling as the gx460, which is what I have my wife in at the moment. And for basically the same price point, I certainly wouldn't pick a GX over and LX.Agree. Given the forum where we are, we should definitely focus on the 300s. At least in terms of LXs 25 and up, I have not heard of any cases. Not even social media. Yes, people are going nuts on these pre-owned GXs for $100k, which to me is just loony when you can spend the same for a preowned LX OT or even spring a bit more and get a brand new.
The 550 doesn’t even come close to the 460, what a let down. I’m on my 5th GX(my23). The 550 OT doesn’t have a 2nd ac system nor a single vent in the cargo area. For someone who owns a 90lb Giant Schnauzer (think of a small pony, lol) not having sufficient ACis just a no go. I won’t mention the way they relocated the front vents to under the screen…..it’s a GD furnace inside it. I live in the Fl Keys, AC is important.Feel the same way. The GX550 isn't even as sold feeling as the gx460, which is what I have my wife in at the moment. And for basically the same price point, I certainly wouldn't pick a GX over and LX.
I did a search for engine recall in Australia for LC300, seems like there is no official recall and believe globally there is also no engine recall.
Wonder what would be reason for it.
I know, another youtuber but it looks like he's reading a legit Toyota document.