2003 LX Steering Rack - same as LC?

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Jason

I would flush and put a bottle of Lucas in it...i bet it will buy you alot of time.
Which one of their products did you run?

I have been using the fluid with seal conditioners.

I am afraid to try the stop leak PS fluid they sell.
 
The stop leak they sell for Power Steering is the bomb. it is thick like honey....but prefer it to Downey.
I'll begrudgingly try it; not a snake oil fan
It would be nice to get 6-9 more months out of this rack...
 
So I found a leak in my PS rack, best I can tell it at or near the input shaft. I haven't had the truck for that long bit the steering feels fine. I put some of the lucas in and it hasn't slowed the leak. How long should it take to work and/or should I try and do another flush and refill? Also does anyone know if a rack for a 2000 LC will work in a LX, I hate having a leaky car...
 
I just successfully put an LC rack in a 2003 LX. There might be a very minor change in steering ratio, but I can't feel it. Other wise it's a direct swap and a nice way to save $300 over the LX rack.
 
I just successfully put an LC rack in a 2003 LX. There might be a very minor change in steering ratio, but I can't feel it. Other wise it's a direct swap and a nice way to save $300 over the LX rack.
Is this confirmed that 2003 LX and 2003 LC are the same rack? It appears that way from aftermarket interchange specs (Amazon, eBay, etc) and would like to confirm among the experts.
 
This thread was very helpful for me changing bushings on a 2003. A couple things I will add:
It's not necessary to remove the tires or drain the oil. You will lose a few ounces of oil when the filter comes off, but that is all.
I was successful with 2 cold chisels: a small one about 3/8" wide with a fairly fine edge and a thicker one about 3/4" or 1" wide. Air hammer was not necessary for the top bushing on driver side (YMMV).
I found it helpful to clamp the rack to the crossmember to minimize movement while beating them out. Sometimes with a socket extension underneath as a spacer.
The new bushings go in easily. On passenger side, install both bushings then use a QuickGrip clamp or similar to press in the spacer. On driver side, get top bushing partly in with the spacer, then the bottom bushing (I did the driver side first since it's the hardest). I used a combination of clamps and a pry bar to get them all into place.
I probably finished this in 4 hours.

SuperPro Bushing success!

I got the SuperPro bushings from AZ a couple of days back and just finished installing them. Bottomline - they fit perfectly and work great. Suddenly my steering feels a lot more tight. I guess the old bushings had been failing for some time and the Barrett Lake trip was the last straw.

So the SuprePro sight is wrong. The 2003+ LCs and LXs (at least in the US) use the same bushing ie Part no SPF2987K.

The install was easier than I had initially anticipated as I had thought I need to remove the steering rack. However the cryptic instructions that came with the bushings said you did not need to remove the steering rack. In brief the steps were:
1. Jack up the car and remove the wheels.
2. Remove the front skid plate.
3. Drain the engine oil and remove the oil filter. This is needed to access the top nut of the drv side bushing and to access the bushing itself.
4. Remove the bolts on both the passenger side and drv side bushing. I use an impact wrench. There is a nut on the top so you do need to hold that as well.
5. Now the difficult part - removing the old bushings. This took me a long time (almost 3 hours for both). The bushings are pressed in from the top and bottom. I remover the ball joint for the tie rod on the passenger side to enable the steering rack to move forward a little bit. I used a chisel to get under the flanges of the bushings and slowly worked them loose. It takes a lot of well aimed blows to work them loose. You have to do the top and bottom separately. I finally got an air hammer from Lowes and used the chisel bit - worked somewhat faster.
6. The Driver side top bushing is very difficult to reach. I finally had to remove the coolant hose attached to the Oil Filter assembly just above the bushing. You can see it in the picture below. My hose pincher did not work too well so I ended up draining a lot of the coolant.
7. Once the old bushings were removed the putting the new ones in was quite easy. Use the white lube that came with the bushings.
8. Put everything back together!

I would say it'll take a total of 5-6 hours if planned properly. I took longer as I took breaks and a trip to Lowes for the air chisel.
 
This thread was very helpful for me changing bushings on a 2003. A couple things I will add:
It's not necessary to remove the tires or drain the oil. You will lose a few ounces of oil when the filter comes off, but that is all.
I was successful with 2 cold chisels: a small one about 3/8" wide with a fairly fine edge and a thicker one about 3/4" or 1" wide. Air hammer was not necessary for the top bushing on driver side (YMMV).
I found it helpful to clamp the rack to the crossmember to minimize movement while beating them out. Sometimes with a socket extension underneath as a spacer.
The new bushings go in easily. On passenger side, install both bushings then use a QuickGrip clamp or similar to press in the spacer. On driver side, get top bushing partly in with the spacer, then the bottom bushing (I did the driver side first since it's the hardest). I used a combination of clamps and a pry bar to get them all into place.
I probably finished this in 4 hours.
So you just took out the oil filter? Interesting and will certainly consider your method. How about the two front wheels - did you have to remove those too?

I just ordered mine and will be doing this very soon.
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I also just did my upper and lower ball joints and tie rods. My objective is to eliminate that floaty type of steering wheel feel on open roads and bring it back to tight feel again like new. In that process now to refreshing steering and suspension system components that wear over time.
 
So you just took out the oil filter? Interesting and will certainly consider your method. How about the two front wheels - did you have to remove those too?
I did not remove the wheels, but did jack it up. It was helpful to have the wheels on, as I could push/pull to move the rack around a little bit. Good luck!
 
I did not remove the wheels, but did jack it up. It was helpful to have the wheels on, as I could push/pull to move the rack around a little bit. Good luck!
Got it thank you very much.

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The steering rack itself has a good 1/4” lateral movement that is not good. I will definitely do the bushings first before I get it computer aligned.
 
The SuperPro bushings are great~ Steering feels SO much better with them.
Ordered it Friday evening and Sunday afternoon it was already here. Can’t wait to get this done.
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To those who have done this, how were you able to take off the binded rubber of the old worn out OE bushings on the steering rack mount?
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@OEMGUY0720 I'm running into this problem now...What did you end up doing to remove all the rubber?
 
@OEMGUY0720 I'm running into this problem now...What did you end up doing to remove all the rubber?
Getting the rubber off is nearly impossible. That rubber is heat pressed on that metal sleeve. So the key is to remove the metal oval sleeve rather than the rubber (bushing). Hope this helps.
 
@OEMGUY0720 Thanks. Guess I'll get after the sleeves. Any tips?
 
@OEMGUY0720 Thanks. Guess I'll get after the sleeves. Any tips?
The new steering rack bushing set if it’s oem should have its own metal sleeve. If it’s an aftermarket polyurethane one like I used, it doesn’t require a metal sleeve anymore since it is stiff enough to handle the twists and torsion movement of the steering rack. The only way you can get that metal sleeve out (anyone pls correct me if I’m wrong) is by using a cold chisel and sledgehammer therefore destroying it in the process.
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@OEMGUY0720 got through it! Thanks for your insight...Love The Mud
 
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