1984 BJ42LX in Dublin

[GS 60]

It's too low to go off road IMO, but for the minute it'll be fine. The tank's probably full of s***e, so a drain and clean out would be on the list to do, however it can't be too bad as the sight glass in that filter is clean. Not urgent though if it's running sweet, coz by draining the tank and moving that filter ya gotta:

a] drain the tank.
b] re-plumb fuel line.
c] may as well replace that fuel filter whilst you're there.
d] bleed the fuel system.
e] fire her up.

Probably a couple hours in it. Might have bigger fish to fry?

Now that photo shows how ridiculously vulnerable that fuel filter really is!

It would bring me joy in your shoes because as Cult says, it can't have gone seriously off-road (or even on metal roads) like that so your low-range gears have probably seen very little use and that BJ42 shouldn't have had many knocks or got the chassis full of stones/mud etc etc.

There's a drain plug in the bottom of the fuel tank for draining out water and whatever else is on the bottom so no need for that extra filter/trap at all in my opinion.

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A half-inch square drive (without even the need to use a socket) works fine to undo it for draining .... but beware .... it is a messy job. (Make sure your tank is no more than 1/4 full before attempting to drain some of it, or else the pressure will be too high.)

Thanks guys,
it had never crossed my mind that she was unlikely to have been off road too much until you both pointed it out, experienced versus novice eyes!!!! I will leave it as is for the moment (as Cult suggested, more pressing matters) and probably take Tom's advice down the road and remove it all together with a new fuel line.

Quick question/opinion, the PO had rubber latches which to be honest work fine especially when there is rust related failure on the hood and aprons, plus the pads on the aprons and bib were shot.

1. Any opinions on fitting new rubber latches on instead of steel?
2. Would you go for stainless steel as opposed to OEM if opting for steel?


I know it don't look great with rubber , just wondering is anyone using them as a permanent solution?

Thanks again

 

[GS 60]

Update,

Been overseas last week, so today is the firs day I could see progress, here are some pics from the body shop, A lot of the rust spots have been cut out and replaced with metal and sanded down. Mostly on the top of aprons, hood and lower back tub. I know the photos don't tell much, but I got back too late to photo steps. Still a lot to do on the floor pans , roof and above/below the windscreen.

There wasn't a lot lurking under the paint as feared, and as you can see, they sanded down quite a lot.

I feel a little embarrassed on this site posting pictures of work done by others , when I see what people are doing themselves , but, I don't have the skill set for this type of work . I will attempt to do as much as i can when the metal and paint is done and will lean on you guys for advise.

Will post some more later.

 

[GS 60]

Some more pics , roof has not been tackled yet or the floor pans

 

[lostmarbles]

Looks to me like you found a good panel&paint shop there..

 

[GS 60]

Thanks Tom, i am happy with them , they showed me some of their work as they collect classics like Escorts , Capri's etc and have them in the shop and were honest in what i would get for my budget etc from a full tub off rebuild to just patch work. I am nearer their patch work end of the scale as you probably noticed, but I just wanted the rust sorted and painted and to get it back on the road and enjoy it. I hope to be able to do bits and pieces on it myself and enjoy that journey. This is a keeper for me and want to keep it as best as possible.

Any idea on the bolts on the roof, assume it was some type of visor? They first thought that they were just small bolts holding a visor which could be grinded down and filled, but now, they have found that the bolts extend into a metal plate that runs the length of the windscreen in the roof space. They are weary about cutting the bolts for this reason ? Also looks like there wan an antenna on the roof at some stage.

 

[tlc762]

The bolts replaced the factory rivits that were there originally. I used bolts to retain my windshield header when I redid my top also...
HTH,
Will

 

[GS 60]

The bolts replaced the factory rivits that were there originally. I used bolts to retain my windshield header when I redid my top also...
HTH,
Will

Thank you, that makes sense.

 

[Awl_TEQ]

@GS 60 - those are not bolts they are the original rivets (as best I can tell anyway). Sand'em and paint right over them. They hold the metal windshield mating bit as mentioned above.

I noticed yesterday when I found this thread that the hood hold downs had been replaced with those rubber ones from some other application. If it were me I would replace them with OEM or a decent aftermarket set. They are readily available from several vendors. I also noticed the windshield hold downs, which look very similar to the hood latches in fact, are missing and the holes are gone from the hood. Again, if it were mine I would acquire some and reinstall them. The factory latches are cool and vintage looking and suit the vehicle better IMHO.

I'll try and illustrate:

Here is a pic posted by @Gus showing the latches and brackets I speak of:

 

[GS 60]

Thanks for heads up on the top bolts, will have a closer look, I have decided to put OEM or stainless steel hood latches on, the rubber latches were on it when i bought it Agree, steel looks a lot better.
Re the windshield hold downs, were they factory on every model/year, seen quite a few without them, the BJ42 I had back in the early 80's didn't have them and it was bought from new?
Also from EFJAY's brochure earlier on thread, they don't seem to be there as factory, were they a factory option or country specific?





Thanks again,

 

[tlc762]

I'm not exactly sure on the windshield hold downs, I agree that there were other late model 40 series that did not come with them standard. Most on the ones I remember were 45's in Oz which lacked the hold downs. Since your LX model was made for that market it would make sense that it did not have them. It also has the three wiper windshield frame and the sliding side windows (part of the LX package) which were also used on troopies. I would love to have them on my truck but am not willing to fork over what $OR wants for them...

 

[Awl_TEQ]

I assumed they all had them but that brochure clearly shows none on the two units pictured. Perhaps it is another LX variant variable. Or perhaps they stopped installing them at some point or in some markets? Given this info I would determine whether or not they were on your unit originally and go from there. If it never had them then I would leave them off personally.

 

[GS 60]

I'm not exactly sure on the windshield hold downs, I agree that there were other late model 40 series that did not come with them standard. Most on the ones I remember were 45's in Oz which lacked the hold downs. Since your LX model was made for that market it would make sense that it did not have them. It also has the three wiper windshield frame and the sliding side windows (part of the LX package) which were also used on troopies. I would love to have them on my truck but am not willing to fork over what $OR wants for them...

I assumed they all had them but that brochure clearly shows none on the two units pictured. Perhaps it is another LX variant variable. Or perhaps they stopped installing them at some point or in some markets? Given this info I would determine whether or not they were on your unit originally and go from there. If it never had them then I would leave them off personally.

Thanks Guys, I will have a look underneath the hood tomorrow to see if there is any tell tale signs, reckon the guys in the body shape have sanded pretty close (as per photo) to where they would have been and they are the kind of guys who would mention it to me if they found filled in holes.

Either way, I agree with the view to leave them off if there were not there in the first place? Doubt the top will ever be off this 42 considering the climate over here

Be interesting to know however, what some have and have not got them ?

Thanks Again

 

[lostmarbles]

I'm pretty sure the absence of windscreen hooks on some models has been discussed before but unfortunately I can't find the evidence of that in the brief search I've done.

That 1983 Australian brochure certainly shows none on any of the 10 different models in the brochure..

And the June 1982 copy of Overlander magazine reviewed a BJ42LX that again had none...

Here's a picture from that review:

PS. This pic suggests that maybe the far-left wiper had a problem with hitting the windscreen rubber and maybe had to be adjusted on the tapered-spline to avoid this?

 

[Ken White]

I believe that the LX model was one of the few which did not have the windscreen hold down latches on the bonnet. Why I have no idea because if you look at the inside top of the windscreen frame there are places on the windscreen to attach the hooks.

What was the original colour on her and are you keeping her original colour.

Do you have the LX badges for the apron?

 

[GS 60]

I'm pretty sure the absence of windscreen hooks on some models has been discussed before but unfortunately I can't find the evidence of that in the brief search I've done.

That 1983 Australian brochure certainly shows none on any of the 10 different models in the brochure..

And the June 1982 copy of Overlander magazine reviewed a BJ42LX that again had none...

Here's a picture from that review:
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PS. This pic suggests that maybe the far-left wiper had a problem with hitting the windscreen rubber and maybe had to be adjusted on the tapered-spline to avoid this?

Thanks Tom,

Checked inside of hood this morning, no sign of previous window hook brackets and as Ken has said, the attachments are on the inside frame, body shop guys said there is no trace either.
See photo of my wipers, looks pretty much the same as the 82 Overlander Mag, although they look pretty level in 83 Brochure ?
Guess you have to use them to find the issue and then adjust ?

 

[sadam_husain]

I've owned 4x 40 series cruisers, 1976 FJ40, 1978 FJ45, 1982 BJ40, 1983 FJ40, only the 1982 and 1983 cruisers had the hooks on the hood but the other 2 earlier models both had the holes for them so I assumed they had been removed by previous owners..... nice looking cruiser you got there mate

 

[GS 60]

I believe that the LX model was one of the few which did not have the windscreen hold down latches on the bonnet. Why I have no idea because if you look at the inside top of the windscreen frame there are places on the windscreen to attach the hooks.

What was the original colour on her and are you keeping her original colour.

Do you have the LX badges for the apron?

Hi Ken,
Looks like that is the case as there is no evidence on mine that they were every there, and yes, the attachments are on my inside windshield frame as well?

Re Colour:

Original colour 033, (photo of plate attached) decided to keep her white, was very tempted to paint her Dune Beige which I love, probably would have to change rims to white if I went beige (seems to look better with beige IMHO) but I love the original rims I have. To be totally honest, its down to cost as well having to do complete spray on internals, engine bay etc if I went beige. Nothing to do with keeping it original as I don't intend to sell it (hopefully all going well) and I believe you should paint it want ever you like (IMHO) unless you are just flipping them for maximum profit?

I have the LX and LC apron badges that came with it, they look original. See bad photo attached.
Have bought new OEM LC apron and and rear badges, couldn't justify what people are looking for new LX OEM badges, 60 US each plus shipping???
The LX ones I have look pretty tired but the paint shop said they touch up the black rims and make them shine again, that will do for me?

 

[GS 60]

I believe that the LX model was one of the few which did not have the windscreen hold down latches on the bonnet. Why I have no idea because if you look at the inside top of the windscreen frame there are places on the windscreen to attach the hooks.

What was the original colour on her and are you keeping her original colour.

Do you have the LX badges for the apron?

And definitely going to change the yellow on drums and disks ????

 

[GS 60]

I believe that the LX model was one of the few which did not have the windscreen hold down latches on the bonnet. Why I have no idea because if you look at the inside top of the windscreen frame there are places on the windscreen to attach the hooks.

What was the original colour on her and are you keeping her original colour.

Do you have the LX badges for the apron?

Ken,
Quick question, I assume the original LX badges were stick on as I don't have any holes on the apron for them?
If not stick on, then I guess there are not original ?

 

[GS 60]

I've owned 4x 40 series cruisers, 1976 FJ40, 1978 FJ45, 1982 BJ40, 1983 FJ40, only the 1982 and 1983 cruisers had the hooks on the hood but the other 2 earlier models both had the holes for them so I assumed they had been removed by previous owners..... nice looking cruiser you got there mate