For Sale 1983 Fj45 Pickup for sale. All original.

Location

United States

Hello Forum, Model FJ45LP-K ,,,, Vin Number FJ45-332*** ,,,, Engine 2F

There is An 1983 Fj45 for sale, it is located in Kuwait, Middle East. Asking Price is $12,000.

It has a clean straight body, color is original, color code 464.
The bed has surface rust but no holes or cracks or welds.
The Body has no rust, Chassis has no Rust or any welds.

I am not new in importing vehicles into USA. Here is an example of vehicle i had imported but later decided to sell.
1992 Defender 130
1900 Land Rover Defender 130 Double Cab High Capacity Pickup 200TDi | eBay

Unfortunately there is very low number of RoRo vessels leaving Kuwait so the Import will be done with a 20 foot container and the cost of container to the West Coast, Long Beach is about $2,800 not including customs fees here in the country. Price of Container to East Coast will be even lower.

If anyone is interested in this Pickup, please let me know. I will help you in Importing it or you can handle the import all yourself if you know the process..

It is a clean rust free all original Pickup. The engine runs and doesn't overheat, transmission shift well.

I will be more then happy to assist you in any way possible. you can reach me at 818-281-2223 or email me at edmond4822@gmail.com

see attached photos..

 

[edmond4822]

Interior pictures

 

[Bear]

That is a 1982 model.

 

[edmond4822]

That is a 1982 model.

Correct , it is a 1982 model.
A few folks know the reason..
The vehicle was imported into kuwait in 1983 and that is why it is registered as 1983 model and not 1982.
in most countries, when they import vehicles they don't register it with its original production date. This is the case here in the Middle East, they registered it the year it came into the country.
Same thing is with Land Rover Defenders. You import vehicles from Europe, The Vin Number will say 1987 but the vehicle is registered in Italy as a 1989 model, because the vehicle was imported into Italy in 1989..
I know it sounds stupid but that is how other countries operate..

Thank you for looking out Bear

 

[Bear]

Edmond,

Thank-you for clarifying its initial registration date vs year of manufacture vs "model year."

Perhaps boring to some, but as further explanation, many of us who have been at this for a while or who are specific collectors, are aware of the various changes made through the production of the 40/45 series Toyotas. And, a number of these changes did not occur on the first day of the calendar year, as is the case with a number of other various makes and models throughout history. Some changes are valued by prospective buyers and some are not. This can be troublesome when a buyer, not thoroughly knowledgeable, relies upon a date such as a registration or import date in determining the features expected on an advertised vehicle. Sometimes the changes are obvious and other times not so readily apparent. Many times this only becomes apparent when the buyer uses an imprecise date to buy a replacement part only to find it's not correct for his/her specific vehicle, or hires an appraisal only to discover the purchase was not as was believed.

This has been problematic with the 1978 vs 1979 40/45 series as to gas tank location and a number of other changes from the factory between those model years. As YOU may be aware, the removeable dash and other items began on the LHD 45 series exported to the Middle East in October 1982 as the "model year 1983 FJ45." The removeable dash is valued by some collectors over the earlier style dash, and this has a monetary value in pricing vehicles with it. Unlike other variable features such as transmissions, power steering, sliding rear windows, etc., purchasing a "1983 model" carries with it certain expectations. Even further back Toyota was initially concerned enough with reliable dating, that in the 1960s many of the unsold inventory already imported into the USA in prior years, had a brass date tag affixed to the "VIN" tags upon sale by the originating dealers.

Late-model FJ45s were not originally imported into the US and there is less familiarity with them here and in a number of countries. It would be nice if every prospective buyer and seller were thoroughly knowledgeable about their purchases and sales, but that isn't realistic.

While all this may be overly-technical and of interest to only a few collectors, my original comment was not meant to be snarky or to influence your sale, but rather to briefly help avoid a possible misperception. Many of us would refer to your truck as a "1982", or as a "late 1982," or some other description. I hope this clarifies my comment, and is my opinion alone.

Your truck looks promising; GLWYS.

 

[edmond4822]

Bear,

First, I knew you meant no harm. As a matter of fact, I want people like you to speak up and educate others about what is happening or going on.

I believed when you said, "original comment was not meant to be snarky or to influence your sale, but rather to briefly help avoid a possible misperception". All true.. You are looking out for everyone here.

Yes, unfortunately, not sure why certain countries do not look at the production date and rather look at import date of vehicle into the country when registering a vehicle model year.. That is why they registered this Pickup as a 1983 and not 1980.
Maybe they didn't have enough information or lacked the knowledge to check for correct production dates for vehicles being imported.
So customs figured what the hell, it was imported in 1983 as a brand new pickup so we register it as a 1983 instead of confirming with Toyota about the production years..

Bear, I believe this Pickup is a 1980 production year Model. Could be December 1980 production? Please see this link.

Can you confirm this Please..

Toyota LAND CRUISER - FJ45LP-K Spare Parts Online Catalog, General market, Engine, Chassis, Body and Electric parts.

US Customs are very familiar with these kind of cases. Many cars get imported into the country that have registered a certain year model date on a vehicle which does not match the production date.
As long as the production date is below the registered year model date on the Vehicle title, then there is no problems.

Thank you..

 

[Bear]

Edmond,

Your attachment is correct but generalized.
You have written that your specific "VIN" (serial number) is: FJ45-332xxx. My records indicate that truck was completed in the Honsya factory during the month of August 1982. Important, because trucks completed after August 1980 came with the split transfercase, considered an improvement for strength and noise over the earlier one-piece transfercases. The parking brake MAY be attached to the rear of your transfercase and considered by some folks as a rare plus; but there are those who prefer the parking brake out on the rear axle.

Of course, all bets are off if someone has replaced any of the parts that originally left the factory in Japan.
You should have an ID plate pop-riveted to the RH firewall that has coded information about the differentials, gearing, transmission, color, and upholstery option. If you either show a clear photo of the plate or type out the info, someone here on Mud should be able to decipher it for you, as well as for the Troopy I believe you are also selling.

BTW, the often arbitrary nature of various customs agencies in titling vehicles can cause problems. Here in California, date of manufacture is critical in needing operable smog equipment for various vehicles.

And, of course, the EPA and the DOT can refuse entry for certain vehicles based on date of mfg. As you know Land Rovers among others have this "problem."

 

[edmond4822]

Hello Bear.

like you mentioned, the EPA and the DOT can refuse entry for certain vehicles based on date of mfg.

This is the case if the vehicle is not over 25 years old. If the vehicle has its original Chassis with its stamped vin number, plus it has the original vin plate and original engine and transmission, then it will not have any issues with the US Customs, but the vehicle has to be older the 25 years.

Bear, as for California, I haven't had the opportunity to Title cars here in California because of the Smog Issues.. I title my Vehicles in Montana before selling them.
All the vehicles that i have sold have all gone to out of state buyers where their state doesn't require smog checks on vehicles.. Plus it is a little headache to deal with all these agencies who issue titles in California. luckily out of state buyers are able to buy it without these agencies interfering with them about smog.

I hear of many stories of people who keep personal cars in California but take it to crooked smog shops to have their vehicles pass smog. They never sell the car , they know a shop who will pass inspection every 2 years so they can register the cars again.

I will not take this route, i will not take it to a illegal smog shop and have it pass inspection to have Cali plates..

The new owner can do whatever they wish to do with it. If no one will interested in it, i will for sure put this baby on the next vessel and import it to the States.

Bear, I really can not thank you enough for all your help, honestly.

Here is the Pickups vin Plate and the chassis has the same vin number stamped on it..

 

[Bear]

You bet.

Well, off the top of my head since it's late, looks like your truck originally was the later "Beige" color--the more yellowish rather than the grayish tan called "Dune Beige." It came with the Middle East spec brownish plaid vinyl seat covers, the chrome front bezel, the front windshield with the chrome insert inside the weatherstripping, chrome windshield rests, stainless hood hooks, and a generally stripped vehicle. Split-rim wheels were standard issue, 1/3. 2/3 split seats with 2-way lap seatbelts, convex RH exterior mirror.
The H41 transmission is a four-speed with a granny low, compared to the US market four speed. The gears in the differentials would be 4.11:1s, open diffs. Assembled at the "big" plant in Japan with the stock 2F engine without the smogged attachments seen in the US, Australia, and Europe.

Looking at your photos shows obvious condition issues you are aware of including home-grown typical add-ons to the interior including changed interior door cards. The spare tire would have been installed underneath the pickup bed with a crank-down chain system, as evidenced by the cut out on the rear valence panel. Holes along the bed rail might have been for the factory stake bed sides at one point. Rear license plate would have been mounted on the RH rear under the valence; foglites were included but were a different style than whats present now. And so on.

I have heard that most third-world locations used these trucks as they were intended--hard--and treated them like mules--never part of the show and shine boulevard racers--the common man's workhorse. And most typically in rough cosmetic condition with non-professional mechanical fixes. Plenty of field-fixes that were never corrected once they got back into town. The worst of the bunch were/are along the coast in Oman, Yemen, and parts of the UAE where they drive them out into the ocean to retrieve their fishing nets !

And if this all sounds negative, I personally like them, if for nothing else than their desire to keep on ticking thru it all.

Again, good luck with your sale.

You can "PM" me(start a conversation) if you'd like to discuss further off the public record.

 

[edmond4822]

Bear,

I promise you that there is absolutely nothing negative you said about the Pickup.

Correct the door cards are probably home made. The current fog lights are so ugly on the pickup, for sure not the originals.
The spare tire is currently in the bed because the current owner is a senior and he must have a hard time going under the pickup to retrieve the spare tire, i am positive that is the reason the tire is in the bed and not tied down to the chain under the pickup. It is very hard to find FJ accessories in Kuwait compared to Saudi Arabia or UAE. You can find body parts but no tiny miny parts.

The holes along the bed rails are for a Bed side metal bar. Please see attachment. Forgot to add picture earlier.
It comes with the Pickup but currently not installed on it. When the time comes to import it, it will be bolted on the bed.

I have witnessed the fishing done in the UAE, close to the Omani border with the FJs. It is something really interesting to watch. They cast the nets at night in the ocean and in the morning they hook it up to the truck and pull it out. These Fjs were only used because they were never issued any license plates for them by the state. They were in bad condition that the government has allowed the fishermen to use it only on the coast for fishing. They are never allowed to register those pickups for driving down the road. But even then with working and abusing the pickups, they would still go very strong.

The worst of the FJ bunch would be the ones used by the fishermen close to the coast, and the region has many mountainous/desert areas and you can find very clean FJs there. The collectors who have FJs in the mountains are not very happy of what the past fishermen were doing to the FJs but it is part of life there.. A friend of mine in Oman told me that fisherman stopped doing the fishing with FJs about 6 or 7 years ago. Fishing has declined by ten folds and Not sure if they still doing it. You never know, somewhere somehow a fisherman is still using his FJ to fish.. This is hilarious..

Bear, I have tried and failed to locate any information about Vin Decoding of FJ45s. I am happy that you came forward telling me a few specs about this FJ45 from Middle East. Greatly appreciated..

Thank You

 

[RumBum]

Email sent Edmond.

 

[edmond4822]

This baby is on it way to Freeport, Texas. It will arrive on 8/29. Can't wait to see it.

 

[edmond4822]

Just got cleared and released by US Customs in Texas. On it way to California.. It is still up for sale. I will post more pictures once i get it.

 

[Rainman]

I owned a '66 FJ45 for a while but had to let it go about 15 years ago. A move I regret. So from time to time, I look to see what's available for the "some day" that I consider buying another one. I'm particularly interested in '78s but not restricted to them. I'm hoping things will work out as I'm planning and may be in the market some time in 2018. If you're still importing these next year and find a fairly clean one at a good price, please PM me. I'm not a guaranteed sale yet but would like to be considered as a chance. I've got big plans for it.

 

[edmond4822]

Hello Rainman,

To be honest, you are right, many of us have sold the cars we love and then regret it, but we sold them because it had to be done at that time.
Its all good, like you say, one day you will buy another one.
Yes If all goes well, next year i will be importing a few more and will let you know.
As a matter of fact, i have a few stored there for them to be imported next year, I didnt have time and i was overloaded with work to bring all cars this year...
I will keep my eyes open for a 1978, if i find one, i will let you know..

I have the 1983 pickup here with me, just waiting to get registration done.

 

[Yellow Jacket]

What’s your price now that you have it in the states?

 

[Rainman]

Hello Rainman,


I will keep my eyes open for a 1978, if i find one, i will let you know..

Thanks. It doesn't HAVE to be a '78 but I just don't like the square bezel and obviously want it with factory disc brakes. So, '76, '77, 78 with '78 being first choice. (I'm also obviously interested in brakes on my truck...)

 

[edmond4822]

Hello YJ

Asking price over 16k.

 

[DieselCruiser81]

Where is located now, California?

 

[edmond4822]

Hello DC

Yes, the car is in La Crescenta, California. But it will get Montana Registration and Title.. I don't have the tools and the knowledge to pass smog and register it in Cali..