12-1 Christmans Tree Run

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Trail:
This isn’t a run per se, this’ll be a chance for us to get together to go and cut Christmas trees in the Lake Davis area and have a little fun in the snow.

Date: Saturday, December 1st

Meeting Time:9:00 am Leave Time: 9:30 am

Meeting Location: .The gas station at Hallelujah Junction. Take US 395 North, from the spaghetti bowl it’s 23 miles Hallelujah Junction. Take the Hallelujah Junction exit. The gas station is the only thing there.

Trail Difficulty: 1-2 Depending on snow conditions, well if there is any snow.

Additional Equipment needed:Bring lunch, a camera and what ever you need to cut and carry a Christmas tree. California charismas tree cutting permit. Permits are available at Hallelujah Junction.

Duration of Run: We should be off the trail around mid-afternoon.


Tread Lightly / CB Channel 3​


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I forgot to bring up the 2M frequency question at the last meeting. Any thoughts anyone? Should we just follow NorCal 80's lead with the 146.460?
 
Is this still on?

I have the day off, and if I can escape the "list", it may work.

Thanks!
 
locrwln1 said:
What's up with the hundy? Why is it not running?

Jack
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APPS, it took a crap in the driveway the day after we got home from DV. Good timing.:lol:

I'm liking the 2F better all the time.
 
locrwln1 said:
I see. How much? Are those located at the pedal? My truck is fully driven by wire, so same kind of sensor.

Jack
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When you say your truck is driven by wire you mean a traditional/mechanical cable wire style link between the accelerator pedal and the throttle (or APPS) correct? I am under the impression that when "drive by wire/throttle by wire" is coined it refers to a pure electronic connection between the accelerator pedal and the throttle/throttle control.

Anyway: The APPS is around $270 MSRP and the TPS is around $70 MSRP.


Amamdo (i4c4lo) replied on the TPS thread here on MUD that this, in a pinch, can be reset by pulling the EFI fuse and reinserting or pulling the battery cable for a few moments and reconnecting. https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=188903&page=2

I don't know anything about the 80-series...but it stands to reason the later 80-series model years might utilize a similar/same set-up (APPS & TPS).
 
The 80 uses a good old fashioned throttle cable and a TPS. Interestingly, I've never heard of a TPS going bad, though I'm sure they do.

We have a late model Toyota with an "APPS" and I don't like the throttle lag you sometimes get, though the Sienna forums say this is normal. Fortunatly it's minor and only a car person would notice.

Still working on Saturday, and may come up to Reno Friday night to be ready for the start and to play with Spressomon's Solaire. Notice I did not say "Dan" since that would not be clear!
 
Cruiserdrew said:
The 80 uses a good old fashioned throttle cable and a TPS. Interestingly, I've never heard of a TPS going bad, though I'm sure they do.

We have a late model Toyota with an "APPS" and I don't like the throttle lag you sometimes get, though the Sienna forums say this is normal. Fortunatly it's minor and only a car person would notice.

Still working on Saturday, and may come up to Reno Friday night to be ready for the start and to play with Spressomon's Solaire. Notice I did not say "Dan" since that would not be clear!
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I'll be in town on Friday...planning to do the Christmas Tree run on Saturday...just let me know if you want to come to the house Andy on Friday or want me to bring the Solaire to the run on Saturday. If Saturday we could grill something up for lunch ;)...if Friday maybe chops for dinner.
 
Cruiserdrew said:
The 80 uses a good old fashioned throttle cable and a TPS. Interestingly, I've never heard of a TPS going bad, though I'm sure they do.

We have a late model Toyota with an "APPS" and I don't like the throttle lag you sometimes get, though the Sienna forums say this is normal. Fortunatly it's minor and only a car person would notice.

Still working on Saturday, and may come up to Reno Friday night to be ready for the start and to play with Spressomon's Solaire. Notice I did not say "Dan" since that would not be clear!
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My '99 uses a mechanical link (i.e. stranded wire cable) to connect the pedal to the APPS. I wonder how the 80-series gets around the need for the APPS? As I understand it the APPS "talks" to the TPS which in turn controls the throttle itself (?). Rusty?
 
spressomon said:
I'll be in town on Friday...planning to do the Christmas Tree run on Saturday...just let me know if you want to come to the house Andy on Friday or want me to bring the Solaire to the run on Saturday. If Saturday we could grill something up for lunch ;)...if Friday maybe chops for dinner.
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No Pizza?:grinpimp:
 
spressomon said:
My '99 uses a mechanical link (i.e. stranded wire cable) to connect the pedal to the APPS. I wonder how the 80-series gets around the need for the APPS? As I understand it the APPS "talks" to the TPS which in turn controls the throttle itself (?). Rusty?
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Sorry I missed this post before.

I don't know much about how the ECU uses the signals generated by all these sensors.
I would guess the TPS/APPS sensors some how tell computer how much or when to open the injectors for maximum fuel burn/ minimum emissions.

I have much to learn about newer engines. And older ones, I can barely keep the tractor engine in the 40 running:lol:.
 
spressomon said:
When you say your truck is driven by wire you mean a traditional/mechanical cable wire style link between the accelerator pedal and the throttle (or APPS) correct? I am under the impression that when "drive by wire/throttle by wire" is coined it refers to a pure electronic connection between the accelerator pedal and the throttle/throttle control.

Anyway: The APPS is around $270 MSRP and the TPS is around $70 MSRP.


Amamdo (i4c4lo) replied on the TPS thread here on MUD that this, in a pinch, can be reset by pulling the EFI fuse and reinserting or pulling the battery cable for a few moments and reconnecting. https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=188903&page=2

I don't know anything about the 80-series...but it stands to reason the later 80-series model years might utilize a similar/same set-up (APPS & TPS).
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As far as my truck it is fully driven by wire. There is no cable going from the pedal to the motor. Just sensors and voodoo magic.:D

spressomon said:
My '99 uses a mechanical link (i.e. stranded wire cable) to connect the pedal to the APPS. I wonder how the 80-series gets around the need for the APPS? As I understand it the APPS "talks" to the TPS which in turn controls the throttle itself (?). Rusty?
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The 80's are more like their same era engines, simple pedal hooked to a cable that hooks to the throttle body. Then it's a typical TPS type system. No APPS that I know of.

rusty_tlc said:
Sorry I missed this post before.

I don't know much about how the ECU uses the signals generated by all these sensors.
I would guess the TPS/APPS sensors some how tell computer how much or when to open the injectors for maximum fuel burn/ minimum emissions.

I have much to learn about newer engines. And older ones, I can barely keep the tractor engine in the 40 running:lol:.
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Refer to above: Voodoo magic.:hillbilly:

Jack
 
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