100 series land cruiser 4 speed vs mfd

[jLB]

All of the wire outs are right in the FSM nothing magic. You can order the HVAC parts right form toyota USA. the only missing part not readily available is the eyebrow display. There are owners doing this right now, on 'mud.

Front Bezel 88092-60110
Bd Sub Assy 88014-60190
Amp A/C 88650-60821
Housing 88912-60150

The wiring was never the challenge. It was producing an adapter to mate both sides of NAV to non-nav at a small volume at reasonable economics and limiting my liability if there was a problem. For a one off I would repin the existing connectors. Toyota has the correct male connectors as repair parts for the non-nav HVAC controller. The part numbers are in the FSM.

For an '03+ conversion its nearly $2k parts alone. Just the wiring harness you'd need for the non-nav counterpart is something like $1200.

Those HVAC controls are the issue there. That was never an option in the USA so they need to be imported. Wire harness issues still exist in that conversion.

(From your site CruiserOPs.Com - CruiserOPs.Com)

"Simultaneously I began looking into the 03+ MFD, which is a much worse problem in terms of OEM parts available to retro fit a non-MFD. There are a few USA examples of 03+ vehicles without the MFD and several of those owners offered some assistance. Mainly by photographing their electronics for comparison to the MFD equipped vehicles. The result here was similar in that it shows the electrical connectivity for the MFD equipped cruisers could be adapted.

In both cases OEM harnesses could be adapted but the cost of the dash wire harness alone is near $2000 and is not a typical home mechanic swap."
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"I looked at building this myself but the raw parts alone from Toyota and other vendors plus the time to do this manually couldn’t be justified."​

I see 3 ways of doing this:

Option 1 all factory parts. (Cost prohibitive/US Parts availability)

Eyebrow display $???
Front Bezel 88092-60110 $???
Bd Sub Assy 88014-60190 $331
Amp A/C 88650-60821 $796
Housing 88912-60150 $???
OEM Non-Nav harness $2000?/$1200?
Double DIN Aftermarket HU $???
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Option 2 adapter between Nav harness and non-Nav equipment (Seems more reasonable price. US Parts availability still an issue)

Eyebrow display $???
Front Bezel 88092-60110 $???
Bd Sub Assy 88014-60190 $331
Amp A/C 88650-60821 $796
Housing 88912-60150 $???
Misc OEM connectors $???
Double DIN Aftermarket HU $???
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Option 3 re-pin existing connectors to non-nav equivalent (roughly same price as option 2. US parts availability still an issue. A PITA to reverse the process if it goes bad.)

Eyebrow display $???
Front Bezel 88092-60110 $???
Bd Sub Assy 88014-60190 $331
Amp A/C 88650-60821 $796
Housing 88912-60150 $???
Double DIN Aftermarket HU $???​

In a quick search on the Internet and a more directed search at partsouq, I find part numbers 88014-60190 and 88650-60821 , but nothing for 88092-60110 or 88912-60150. Any rough idea of cost of 88092-60110 and 88912-60150?

Maybe in a market where there were non-nav (LHD) models sold in numbers, or if I was willing to travel to one of those areas to scour the salvage yards, this conversion might make sense. You mention that "There are owners doing this right now, on 'mud". I've seen a number of people looking into it, but can you point me to anyone that has actually completed this conversion (especially in the US) on an 03+ LC or LX?

Just like a factory diesel swap, it is possible, but the benefits are not worth the pain and cost involved for me to get real excited about it.

Maybe if I had a dead MFD, I'd see it differently. For now, I guess I'll wait to see what GROM comes up with their VLine product.

 

[lrowe_csp]

1999, manual controls for HVAC and can easily bump up to after market stereo. Fix for 2 pinion diff is ARB locker- like said before on this thread, 3X locked with FZJ80 rotary dial. 5 speed would be great, but the 4 speed works very well, so I haven't felt slighted.