100 series cargo barrier - gauging interest

[WakoTako]

I just spent over $500 to have the KAON model shipped to me so there is deff a market out there. My main concern was the sturdiness of the unit, was super sick of the universal joints that rattle on every bump.

 

[hoser]

I played around with the fold up concept. Given my limitations at the time it didn’t make sense economically to bring to market.

For my design the hard part was getting the top two mounting points on the same hinge plane. The rest was pretty easy to solve.

A 3 piece barrier wall is another option. Make the folding part a rectangle but you loose some pass through space on the sides.

Instead of the fold up concept, maybe take an attic rack and look at the fold down concept. Obviously, the purpose of a cargo barrier is so cargo doesn't fly into the passenger compartment. (and vice versa to some extent). It really only need one sturdy pivot point. If the rack extends below the headrests in the vertical position, there's no way the rack is going forward unless the seat back fails. The barrier certainly has to be secured from swinging backwards but not to the same degree. I would venture to say, ties into all 6 headrest posts would be enough.

 

[Corbet]

Instead of the fold up concept, maybe take an attic rack and look at the fold down concept. Obviously, the purpose of a cargo barrier is so cargo doesn't fly into the passenger compartment. (and vice versa to some extent). It really only need one sturdy pivot point. If the rack extends below the headrests in the vertical position, there's no way the rack is going forward unless the seat back fails. The barrier certainly has to be secured from swinging backwards but not to the same degree. I would venture to say, ties into all 6 headrest posts would be enough.

This would be a good way of solving the hinge plane issue. Just comes down to your acceptance of loosing that vertical space in the cargo area. My Alaskan Malamute at the time veto'd said loss.

 

[The Moose Trophy]

This would be a good way of solving the hinge plane issue. Just comes down to your acceptance of loosing that vertical space in the cargo area. My Alaskan Malamute at the time veto'd said loss.

While I'm waiting on my prototype to arrive I'm going to start designing the flip shelf. I'm thinking molle so I can mount bags and not have to work about gear falling everywhere.

Keep the ideas coming!

 

[hoser]

Sure, this was a feature on some Milford cargo barriers.... design the barrier to fit in both positions, between 2nd/3rd row and also between 1st/2nd row. And then just design two sets of mounts.... or if you can design the mounts to fit both positions!

 

[The Moose Trophy]

Designing some stuff while I wait for the prototype to arrive.
These are hangers for the back of the barrier to hold, well anything, but my thought was grocery bags. Backpacks, or extension cords/rope.

Let me know if y'all think of any other brackets you'd find useful!

I'm planning on offering these as add on pieces.

 

[The Moose Trophy]

Well the prototype came in! A few changes needed to be made. One whole doesn't line up, and I need to change some bend angles, but overall super happy!

 

[The Moose Trophy]

I'll be finalizing the design over the next couple weeks and then going into production.

Things I need help on:
What color do you want the barrier to be?
- black
- color matched (grey/beige)
- comes as raw metal

Do you want to purchase a full complete kit, or would you prefer the option to purchase the CAD file and have it cut yourself?

My prototype was ~$280 (with discount) - A36 steel, and no finishing. So you'll be looking at ~$300-380 for the metal pieces, single run, if you're purchasing just the file. (3d printed files will be additional cost for printing)

 

[R6Joker]

I'll be finalizing the design over the next couple weeks and then going into production.

Things I need help on:
What color do you want the barrier to be?
- black
- color matched (grey/beige)
- comes as raw metal

Do you want to purchase a full complete kit, or would you prefer the option to purchase the CAD file and have it cut yourself?

My prototype was ~$280 (with discount) - A36 steel, and no finishing. So you'll be looking at ~$300-380 for the metal pieces, single run, if you're purchasing just the file. (3d printed files will be additional cost for printing)

My vote would be the complete kit in black rather than trying to color match.

 

[The Moose Trophy]

Painted and noticed a few more changes are needed.
The drivers side bracket is too short length ways and the mounting holes to the bracket need adjusted down.
No issues with the passenger side. I'll most likely be making a second run of the driver's side to ensure fitment before final cutting.

 

[The Moose Trophy]

Last of the car barrier parts have arrived. V2 of the driver's side fitting better to the handle location and adding more attachment points. All the 3d parts are complete, for now, the headrest brackets fit well and look sleek. The bag holders do their job and honestly are a nice touch. Things that need fixed before final sign off and production: The gap between the barrier and headrest mount is closed to a quarter inch. Too much and needs to be closed. This will be done by making the wings longer as I can't get longer bolts for the headrest mounts. The barrier naturally wants to rest lower down by a 1/8 inch which means adjusted mounting holes to the headrest br rackets. The 3d printed headrest mounts need printed upright and not flat as the bolts could cause splitting of the print if they're tightened too much. Overall the product is extremely close. Just minor fixes and lining up a good manufacturer.

 

[The Moose Trophy]

final prototype ordered. Decided to go with FMFG for several reasons.
1. USA made
2. Competitively priced
3. Can cut/fold larger items (over 50")

I looked at oshcut/xometry/send cut send, but didn't fit one of the above well.

The final product is templated to be 5052 aluminum to keep the weight low yet still being cheaper to produce.
Since this is going in my car I decided to go with a rough black powder coating as I like the texture, but I may go smooth/matte for the final run. Let me know your thoughts.

Still working on sourcing a good place to manufacturer the 3d prints, hoping to go with a US, company preferably in the cruiser space.

I'm working on final pricing but it in the ballpark of $475 + shipping. (All hardware and headrest brackets, hooks sold as an add on)