AltFuel "Run's on SVO (vegetable oil)"?

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aamiggia

aamiggia

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I know a little bit about biodiesel, but appreantly I still need to learn a lot. There's a Vegiepower guy advertising RHD BJ74's in Ontario. Here is the add from one of them:

" 3.4L TDI, RHD, AT, PS, removeable hard top, CD player, PTO-winch & Yakima rack. Runs on SVO (vegetable oil) or diesel, easy to use proven Neoteric system. Kyoto friendly! $18,000. (403)968-2644, info@vegiepower.com"

Do these trucks come at a premium becuase I can poor Crisco into the tank :D or is this Hippie from BC banking on Ontarians not knowing the price of imported JDM Cruisers?

Let me tell you Cruisers are very small potatoes in Ontario. Especially anthing other than a 40 series. Most local guys think I'm :banana: 's wheeling my LX450.
 
Kettle Chips recycles their peanut oil as biodiesel.

$18k CAD is not way out of line for a very clean, low km JDM cruiser, although that price would be easier to swallow if it had lockers. Cruisers are only "small potatoes" if they're full of cancer.
 
very nice 61's and 74's from what I understand are getting harder and harder to find. Price will reflect that.

There was a veggie powered 60 that stopped by the shop last year. I believe they were from Edmonton, had the tank in the back of the 60, and dialed it in on the road trip. Dunno if they were using the same kit as mentioned.

http://www.lclark.edu/~jprindle/kitcomparison.html

gb
 
Stone said:
Kettle Chips recycles their peanut oil as biodiesel.

$18k CAD is not way out of line for a very clean, low km JDM cruiser, although that price would be easier to swallow if it had lockers. Cruisers are only "small potatoes" if they're full of cancer.
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i have not called him recently but i do believe he mentioned it is above 150,000 km...
 
That is cool, I had no idea that an "oil burner" actually could burn cooking oil.

I always thought that the only way to use cooking oil was to convert it to biodiesel.

The price was not what I was concerned about. It was if it was pricey because it has been specially converted (SVO kit). There's been enough threads I've participated in that comment on the price of JDM imports.
 
aamiggia, (how did you come up with that name?)
i know you have contributed, i was just clarifying for those that might be new comers to the board...
BTW, it looks like i will be down there come august, might be a good idea to get together for a pop or something...

as for running bio, personally till this whole concept is completely tested i would be hesitant to by a vehicle that had been running it... who knows what kinds of problems will come up in the future... the injection system is very expensive to fix if anything should go wrong...
cheers
 
I always thought that the only way to use cooking oil was to convert it to biodiesel.[/QUOTE said:
Biodiesel can be run with no modifications, Veggi oil needs to be heated to have right viscosity, and engin needs to be hot befor buning th oil.
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aamiggia said:
I know a little bit about biodiesel, but appreantly I still need to learn a lot. There's a Vegiepower guy advertising RHD BJ74's in Ontario. Here is the add from one of them:
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I do not know much about these systems either, however it is an interesting subject, as the price of diesel stay above gasoline (crazy imo). My question would be how much use it would be if much of your driving is in the city. It used to be you had to shut down minutes before you stopped and run straight diesel to purge the lines. Dunno if this is still the case. If it is, I can see how this might be a pain. If all you do is long haul, then it would make more sense. No time to research it right now. Anyone know if this is still the standard way of using a WVO system?

Biodiesel is a completely different animal again.

gb
 
jfc Biodiesel can be run with no modifications said:
I know you guys have been running 100% for some time, however any rubber lines do need to be changed out eventually with a bio-diesel compatible hose. Same for the rubber hose for the filler tube at the tank.

I believe 20% biodiesel is the standard used before you need to change hoses.

gb
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crushers said:
as for running bio, personally till this whole concept is completely tested i would be hesitant to by a vehicle that had been running it... who knows what kinds of problems will come up in the future... the injection system is very expensive to fix if anything should go wrong...
cheers
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Wayne, the VW crowd have been running this for years. Mr Diesel himself used veggy oil...

gb
 
Greg_B said:
I do not know much about these systems either, however it is an interesting subject, as the price of diesel stay above gasoline (crazy imo). My question would be how much use it would be if much of your driving is in the city. It used to be you had to shut down minutes before you stopped and run straight diesel to purge the lines. Dunno if this is still the case. If it is, I can see how this might be a pain. If all you do is long haul, then it would make more sense. No time to research it right now. Anyone know if this is still the standard way of using a WVO system?

Biodiesel is a completely different animal again.

gb
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from what I have seen on sites selling kits, is that you don't have to purge unless you are parking for more than an hour, otherwise it gets thick. They say it will stay warm long enough.
so if you drive short only a short distance and shut down for the whole day and drive home, then it might not be a good choice. Thats what I do. but I still want the wvo system cause I do take my truck on long trips and use it for a whole day. my short commute is not the majority of my km's a year.

In the other thread much like this one, we mentioned about a group buy on kits from some company. anyone interested. ???
 
Greg_B said:
Wayne, the VW crowd have been running this for years. Mr Diesel himself used veggy oil...

gb
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this might be true but at the same time i do not know anyone that has personally and i still will pass if a vehicle has been run on bio and is for sale...
 
crushers said:
this might be true but at the same time i do not know anyone that has personally and i still will pass if a vehicle has been run on bio and is for sale...
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i understand passing on a vehicle running bio, cause you never know what the mix is like. could be all over the map on different lubrication.

but running on veggie is different. just oil. not a mix of different chemicals. so should be stable for lubrication on the injector pump. and there is no issues with rubber hoses.
 
crushers said:
this might be true but at the same time i do not know anyone that has personally and i still will pass if a vehicle has been run on bio and is for sale...
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Hi Wayne

As Brownbear says...Sounds like this unit in Ont is WVO capable.

I've never researched nor looked into variations in Biodiesel (the homebrew type) and effects on lubrication: Good question. Stuff at the pump would be fine I would think as it is all blends (no more the 20% afaik) and commercially made. All reading I've done says bio is better for the pump then just plain old diesel.

gb
 
well, i guess i best be looking into it sometime...
BTW, my understanding is that the vehicle is in Alberta it is being offered forsale in Ontario...
 
so how much do you save if you take your time and effort into the equation?
 
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