Can anyone fill me in? If I were to go to a salvage yard and want a part, I don't even know when they were made, were they US or import, trucks, SUV. Dunno ???
Hep me,
Ed
Hep me,
Ed
What years were "70's Series" made??
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They were not ever imported to the USA, they were, and still are available in Kanada...
Do not think that you would find much in a crap yard for a 70 series in the USA..
Good luck!
-Steve
Do not think that you would find much in a crap yard for a 70 series in the USA..
Good luck!
-Steve
Ed,
My Spector offroad catalog has some photos of them. They're basically modern FJ40's. About the same wheelbase with a more streamlined body style.
I think they mostly- or exclusively- have diesel engines, some of them with turbos. Features available can include factory PTO winches, full float axles and more. I'd imagine most cruiser enthusiasts would love to have one.
My Spector offroad catalog has some photos of them. They're basically modern FJ40's. About the same wheelbase with a more streamlined body style.
I think they mostly- or exclusively- have diesel engines, some of them with turbos. Features available can include factory PTO winches, full float axles and more. I'd imagine most cruiser enthusiasts would love to have one.
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Thanks, ev'a body, I think I learned what I need to know. 'Pimp put his .02 in and that always makes me feel better. So, a good swap for the '40?
Thanks,
Ed
Thanks,
Ed
dude,
i would love to have a 70 series. they just look so tight.
check out the ones in readers rides, and then you can drool. esp. that bj74 troopie with the 36s.
seriously though, if i were to drive up to canadia, and stop at some junkyard, what are the chances of me finding a 70 series with salvagable diesel and 5spd? preferably turbo'd, but i could probably get that from radd, right?
if not every junkyard, then anybody anywhere in canada know of a place i could pick one up or just drivetrain for as cheap as possible? me and the bro-in-law need somewhere to go this summer to get cruiser stuff. it's either america jr. or somewhere in central america
malphrus
sorry bout the hijack ed
i would love to have a 70 series. they just look so tight.
check out the ones in readers rides, and then you can drool. esp. that bj74 troopie with the 36s.
seriously though, if i were to drive up to canadia, and stop at some junkyard, what are the chances of me finding a 70 series with salvagable diesel and 5spd? preferably turbo'd, but i could probably get that from radd, right?
if not every junkyard, then anybody anywhere in canada know of a place i could pick one up or just drivetrain for as cheap as possible? me and the bro-in-law need somewhere to go this summer to get cruiser stuff. it's either america jr. or somewhere in central america
malphrus
sorry bout the hijack ed
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"seriously though, if i were to drive up to canadia, and stop at some junkyard, what are the chances of me finding a 70 series with salvagable diesel and 5spd?"
Slim, very slim.
The 70's were sold only in very small numbers and for only a few years (maybe 3?) in the GWN. They have been sold, and still are sold, for off-road use only, to many Canadian mining companies. Some of these do make there way out into the marketplace by legal or, shall we say, semi-legal means. I'd love to have one of the 70 pickups, but they are usually well and truely hammered by the time they are released. They often have the higher gears blocked off in their tranys as a speed control method, which results in them having the holy piss revved out of them for much of their lives. They also suffer from severe corosion problems in some mines.
I'd say don't waste your time on a trip up there without developing some contacts and leads first.
"seriously though, if i were to drive up to canadia, and stop at some junkyard, what are the chances of me finding a 70 series with salvagable diesel and 5spd?"
Slim, very slim.
The 70's were sold only in very small numbers and for only a few years (maybe 3?) in the GWN. They have been sold, and still are sold, for off-road use only, to many Canadian mining companies. Some of these do make there way out into the marketplace by legal or, shall we say, semi-legal means. I'd love to have one of the 70 pickups, but they are usually well and truely hammered by the time they are released. They often have the higher gears blocked off in their tranys as a speed control method, which results in them having the holy piss revved out of them for much of their lives. They also suffer from severe corosion problems in some mines.
I'd say don't waste your time on a trip up there without developing some contacts and leads first.
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fly to australia... 70's and 75's are common. they still sell 78's and 79's new
Yup, 85-87 in Canada. Several different runs worldwide - 70s,74s,79s,etc... They really are neat little truck. Comfortable, and with
84 bhp, not much chance of being a speed demon! Plus the diesel coolness factor thrown in for free! (see sig line) 8)
84 bhp, not much chance of being a speed demon! Plus the diesel coolness factor thrown in for free! (see sig line) 8)
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you could, and still can, get petrol 70/73/75/78/79 series in aust...
ed-
are you thinking about an upgrade to a 40 and parts availability?
remember also, two main versions, the LCII which is a mini truck driveline and the LC which is heavy duty (like Canadian spec) which we will only discuss.
GS has some parts, some stuff (fenders) are dealer and not $$$, front doors maybe GS also Greg Riemer (in this case, new doors and hoods-round top doors fits all but made for fixed metal tops). Hokey repair panels can be found for quarter repairs. Adding a/c to a non a/c truck is $2,000 plus labor.
Now to say they mostly come in diesel is like saying girls only come with blond hair.
Drivelines to 1990 are essentially like a late 40 series, 9.5" R&P's front and rear, transmissions are all split case fitted either H55 or H41 (few H42's), and would have 4 cylinder diesel turbo or not (13B-T or 3B, 3BII) or gas (3F) or a few 2H 6 cylinder diesels.
1990+ are only 6 cylinder non turbo (essentially, that is all you will find) or 6 cylinder FZ systems.
Automatics are rare, but can be found.
several wheelbases, swb ala 90", mid 102", troopie/PU (beanz confirm), and whatever the 77 wb is (?).
As a daily driver; more quiet, more comfy, and softer ride (spring length) than a 40 series by 100 years. add a/c and almost always PS then a nice running truck. I am selling my last 40 and never looking back.
are you thinking about an upgrade to a 40 and parts availability?
remember also, two main versions, the LCII which is a mini truck driveline and the LC which is heavy duty (like Canadian spec) which we will only discuss.
GS has some parts, some stuff (fenders) are dealer and not $$$, front doors maybe GS also Greg Riemer (in this case, new doors and hoods-round top doors fits all but made for fixed metal tops). Hokey repair panels can be found for quarter repairs. Adding a/c to a non a/c truck is $2,000 plus labor.
Now to say they mostly come in diesel is like saying girls only come with blond hair.
Drivelines to 1990 are essentially like a late 40 series, 9.5" R&P's front and rear, transmissions are all split case fitted either H55 or H41 (few H42's), and would have 4 cylinder diesel turbo or not (13B-T or 3B, 3BII) or gas (3F) or a few 2H 6 cylinder diesels.
1990+ are only 6 cylinder non turbo (essentially, that is all you will find) or 6 cylinder FZ systems.
Automatics are rare, but can be found.
several wheelbases, swb ala 90", mid 102", troopie/PU (beanz confirm), and whatever the 77 wb is (?).
As a daily driver; more quiet, more comfy, and softer ride (spring length) than a 40 series by 100 years. add a/c and almost always PS then a nice running truck. I am selling my last 40 and never looking back.
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I'm thinking about swapping in a 70 series front axle 1* for the disc brakes, but the birfs are supposed to be better. The brakes on this particular axle are "newer" 4 piston calipers, bigger vent rotors. I just didn't want to get into anything too wierd. But as I understand it, most of the parts that wear and need periodic replacement are available, pads, rotors, wheelbearings etc. Overall width is 2" wider than a '40, but that doesn't bother me.
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Ed
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When I was a Motor Mechanic a few years ago, I did a Service on a 1996 75 Series Truck with a 2F.
ed-
follow me with this.
a short side front axle shaft for a 40 series, 55 series, 60 series, and 70 series (to 1990) are all the same.
a long side front axle for a 40 series, a 55 series, and a 70 series to 1990 are the same length (as PROVEN by using 70 series elocker axle shaft for elocker conversions to 40 axles)
hubs, spindles, birfields from 1979-1998 are all the same (scallop'd can swap with plain)
either 1974 rear 40/55 axle shafts (semi float) can be interchanged with a 1998 70 semi float (and 1981-1984 40 FF interchange with 1984-1998 axle shafts from 70 series) 1999 went to 5 lug...
so how, can a 70 axle be 2" wider than a 40 series???? It cannot.
1990+ 70 front axles (pre rear steer) use slightly longer axle shafts but also use only 8" ring and pinions up front. They use ever so slightly large birfields but sadly do not take the 80 series. The rear steer 1999+ DO use 80 birfields. REAR steering knuckle housings do not accept top steer arms thus cannot be used for standard applications where high steer arms etc are used.
brake calipers from 40/60/70 and IFS mini interchange. You can still large piston calipers on your 1979 knuckle housings.
rotors are rotors.
follow me with this.
a short side front axle shaft for a 40 series, 55 series, 60 series, and 70 series (to 1990) are all the same.
a long side front axle for a 40 series, a 55 series, and a 70 series to 1990 are the same length (as PROVEN by using 70 series elocker axle shaft for elocker conversions to 40 axles)
hubs, spindles, birfields from 1979-1998 are all the same (scallop'd can swap with plain)
either 1974 rear 40/55 axle shafts (semi float) can be interchanged with a 1998 70 semi float (and 1981-1984 40 FF interchange with 1984-1998 axle shafts from 70 series) 1999 went to 5 lug...
so how, can a 70 axle be 2" wider than a 40 series???? It cannot.
1990+ 70 front axles (pre rear steer) use slightly longer axle shafts but also use only 8" ring and pinions up front. They use ever so slightly large birfields but sadly do not take the 80 series. The rear steer 1999+ DO use 80 birfields. REAR steering knuckle housings do not accept top steer arms thus cannot be used for standard applications where high steer arms etc are used.
brake calipers from 40/60/70 and IFS mini interchange. You can still large piston calipers on your 1979 knuckle housings.
rotors are rotors.
Dude..........awsome info
Rear steer? whats it on? never heard of it
John
[quote author=rick_d link=board=1;threadid=14106;start=msg132385#msg132385 date=1081053387]
ed-
follow me with this.
a short side front axle shaft for a 40 series, 55 series, 60 series, and 70 series (to 1990) are all the same.
a long side front axle for a 40 series, a 55 series, and a 70 series to 1990 are the same length (as PROVEN by using 70 series elocker axle shaft for elocker conversions to 40 axles)
hubs, spindles, birfields from 1979-1998 are all the same (scallop'd can swap with plain)
either 1974 rear 40/55 axle shafts (semi float) can be interchanged with a 1998 70 semi float (and 1981-1984 40 FF interchange with 1984-1998 axle shafts from 70 series) 1999 went to 5 lug...
so how, can a 70 axle be 2" wider than a 40 series???? It cannot.
1990+ 70 front axles (pre rear steer) use slightly longer axle shafts but also use only 8" ring and pinions up front. They use ever so slightly large birfields but sadly do not take the 80 series. The rear steer 1999+ DO use 80 birfields. REAR steering knuckle housings do not accept top steer arms thus cannot be used for standard applications where high steer arms etc are used.
brake calipers from 40/60/70 and IFS mini interchange. You can still large piston calipers on your 1979 knuckle housings.
rotors are rotors.
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Rear steer? whats it on? never heard of it
John
[quote author=rick_d link=board=1;threadid=14106;start=msg132385#msg132385 date=1081053387]
ed-
follow me with this.
a short side front axle shaft for a 40 series, 55 series, 60 series, and 70 series (to 1990) are all the same.
a long side front axle for a 40 series, a 55 series, and a 70 series to 1990 are the same length (as PROVEN by using 70 series elocker axle shaft for elocker conversions to 40 axles)
hubs, spindles, birfields from 1979-1998 are all the same (scallop'd can swap with plain)
either 1974 rear 40/55 axle shafts (semi float) can be interchanged with a 1998 70 semi float (and 1981-1984 40 FF interchange with 1984-1998 axle shafts from 70 series) 1999 went to 5 lug...
so how, can a 70 axle be 2" wider than a 40 series???? It cannot.
1990+ 70 front axles (pre rear steer) use slightly longer axle shafts but also use only 8" ring and pinions up front. They use ever so slightly large birfields but sadly do not take the 80 series. The rear steer 1999+ DO use 80 birfields. REAR steering knuckle housings do not accept top steer arms thus cannot be used for standard applications where high steer arms etc are used.
brake calipers from 40/60/70 and IFS mini interchange. You can still large piston calipers on your 1979 knuckle housings.
rotors are rotors.
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[quote author=rick_d link=board=1;threadid=14106;start=msg132173#msg132173 date=1081015378]
several wheelbases, swb ala 90", mid 102", troopie/PU (beanz confirm), and whatever the 77 wb is (?).
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troopie / pick up 117"
77 107.5"
Dave
several wheelbases, swb ala 90", mid 102", troopie/PU (beanz confirm), and whatever the 77 wb is (?).
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troopie / pick up 117"
77 107.5"
Dave
john-
rear steer are an under arm set up like 80 series. Thus, the top cap is a 2 bolt design not a 4 bolt. I guess a rear steer could also be considered a coil front end.
I thought that a 1995 front end I had took big birfields, but found out I was quite wrong (dave tay now has the new birfields I misbought).
in other news I got my ARB yesterday. $550 no tax, no freight, in my lap (from MAF no less).
rear steer are an under arm set up like 80 series. Thus, the top cap is a 2 bolt design not a 4 bolt. I guess a rear steer could also be considered a coil front end.
I thought that a 1995 front end I had took big birfields, but found out I was quite wrong (dave tay now has the new birfields I misbought).
in other news I got my ARB yesterday. $550 no tax, no freight, in my lap (from MAF no less).
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Lots of useful information. Thanks.
Ed
Ed
[quote author=rick_d link=board=1;threadid=14106;start=msg132385#msg132385 date=1081053387]
1990+ 70 front axles (pre rear steer) use slightly longer axle shafts but also use only 8" ring and pinions up front. They use ever so slightly large birfields but sadly do not take the 80 series. The rear steer 1999+ DO use 80 birfields. REAR steering knuckle housings do not accept top steer arms thus cannot be used for standard applications where high steer arms etc are used.
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http://www.ottindustries.com/fj80.htm
OTT has developed steering arms to adapt the 80 series knuckle to top hi steer arms. They add an extra stud to to the knuckle housing.
1990+ 70 front axles (pre rear steer) use slightly longer axle shafts but also use only 8" ring and pinions up front. They use ever so slightly large birfields but sadly do not take the 80 series. The rear steer 1999+ DO use 80 birfields. REAR steering knuckle housings do not accept top steer arms thus cannot be used for standard applications where high steer arms etc are used.
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http://www.ottindustries.com/fj80.htm
OTT has developed steering arms to adapt the 80 series knuckle to top hi steer arms. They add an extra stud to to the knuckle housing.