TE1 + E1 (timing) Doesn't short?

[CodyRx7]

I figured I might get more answers with a specific thread.

I adjusted my timing the other day from about 6 to 10 degrees BTDC.

When I followed the instructions about jumping the pins, the timing definately changed from 6 down to 3 as it was described in the instructions.

I adjusted it and removed the jumper, everything worked fine.

I noticed a noise which seems to be pinging, so I wanted to bring my timing down today.

I started her up and ran her to regular running temp - and then turned it off.

I jumped the pins, and started it up - still 10 degrees.

I tried several times using a paperclip from the same box as the last one I used successfully.

I moved the clip around to make sure I was getting a good connection but nothing worked to bring the timing down.

What gives?

 

[landtank]

with the jumper in it should read the same as where you left it last time.

So if you put the jumper in and adjusted it to 10* btdc before, that is where it will read when you put the jumper in now.

 

[CodyRx7]

Firstly, make sure the engine's at normal operating temperature and that the A/C is off. Connect the timing light to plug lead No 1 and check the ignition timing. It's probably around 10 deg BTDC under normal ECU control.

Switch the engine off, remove the key and locate the ECU service plug. Using the bent paper clip, short out the E1 and TE1 terminals. Confirm that the contact is made by turning the ignition on and on most models, the engine check dash lamp will blink.

Start the engine and check ignition timing (now in service mode). The standard timing is 3deg BTDC and is marked on the timing chain cover. If the timing is unchanged from when you previously checked (around 10 deg) it means that the terminals E1 and TE1 have not be shorted.

Well I was reading that as service mode ALWAYS puts it into 3 degrees...?

 

[landtank]

in service mode it should be at 3* when adjusted properly to the factory setting but you're dicking with it and it's not at the factory setting any more, it's where ever you left it last.