Ahh, OK. I am with you. Well, measure your truck and then post another one over in the 80 section. Probably get you where you need to go.
seat swap.
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I like the seats in my 80 more than the seats in my 100, but I don't think I would swap 80 seats in. The 100 seats are more cushy which is nice on long trips, but the 80 seats wrap around which is nice for nice for all the high perfomance driving I do in the 80(insert sarcasm). This coming from a guy that is 265. I have the sides cranked open all the way on the 80 and they are perfect. If it wasn't so cold I would take some measurements to tell you if they would drop right in.
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I am mostly interested in acheiving the cushioning that the 80 has in the back support, the bottom half is fine.
unless I get that aftermarket, custom made, I was hoping somehow just the back of the 80's could be put on the 100 seats. Even the corolla/camry back seats are better than the 100 series/lx.
unless I get that aftermarket, custom made, I was hoping somehow just the back of the 80's could be put on the 100 seats. Even the corolla/camry back seats are better than the 100 series/lx.
I think if you go for a seat swap it is going to be an all or nothing deal. I really don't believe you can swap just the seatback onto the 100 seat. Maybe find a good upholstry shop in your area and show them pictures of how the 80 seat has more side bolstering and see if they can put some custom foam in yours. New leather will be required however. Definately will not be cheap(I would guess well over a grand for both front seats).
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ahh ! here's the conclusion:
sat in a sedan, and basically adjusted the height of the seat all the way upwards for the base, left the front side of the base(towards the pedals) the same lower height setting.
and the wierd setting basically equates to the setting that LX has as normal setting.
it seems like due to either the lack of space below the seats or some other wierd reason, the lx seats are very very high with respect to the rest of the vehicle. that ends up putting extra pressure on the back resulting in very very uncomfortable seating posture. !
i can't believe people don't complain about the seating posture on the landcruiser or lx.
i wish i had known this before i bought the truck. :thumbdn:
sat in a sedan, and basically adjusted the height of the seat all the way upwards for the base, left the front side of the base(towards the pedals) the same lower height setting.
and the wierd setting basically equates to the setting that LX has as normal setting.
it seems like due to either the lack of space below the seats or some other wierd reason, the lx seats are very very high with respect to the rest of the vehicle. that ends up putting extra pressure on the back resulting in very very uncomfortable seating posture. !
i can't believe people don't complain about the seating posture on the landcruiser or lx.
i wish i had known this before i bought the truck. :thumbdn:
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with that said, is there a way to fabricate the bottom of the driver seat, so that it can lower more than it does at the moment ?
I know that there's the base of the truck right under the seat, but the base seems to be elevated at the points where the front seats are. which are not the case in the 80 seris.. I'm curious if it is something that is doable..
I know that there's the base of the truck right under the seat, but the base seems to be elevated at the points where the front seats are. which are not the case in the 80 seris.. I'm curious if it is something that is doable..
lexus470, how tall are you?
My wife and I are extremely short, 5'4" and 5'6". We find the seats to be extremely comfortable, as does my brother 5'8" and my father 5'10".
I'm thinking with a little ingenuity that anything is possible...
My wife and I are extremely short, 5'4" and 5'6". We find the seats to be extremely comfortable, as does my brother 5'8" and my father 5'10".
I'm thinking with a little ingenuity that anything is possible...
lexs470 said:I guess the 6ft plus drivers were not kept in mind when the landcruisers were built
I would welcome the ideas on how we can have the seats lowered somehow. very much appreciated of the input and helpful comments.
I'm sorry but I'm 6' 2" and I find the seats in the 100 series very comfortable. I can't see how lowering the seat anymore would make it more comfortable? I don't have it at the lowest setting now, let alone going lower. Do you usually drive cars that sit low to the ground or something? Most SUV's I've driven sit higher not lower. Just trying to understand where you're coming from.
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it's not the fact that i'm trying to sit lower in the car, but it has to do with the geometry and the relation of the seat to the steering etc which doesn't align properly.
i've driven montero which sits way higher than the cruiser but doesnt have the same problem...
i've driven montero which sits way higher than the cruiser but doesnt have the same problem...
I assume the seats were built to accomodate average sized Americans, plus or minus a few inches.
So what is it LX 470? Was your last car a sports car?
So what is it LX 470? Was your last car a sports car?
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it's a 01 lx470. and the cars i'm referrnig to are camry/corolla/lexus sedans. I've tried them all to see the seating pattern and they're all fine except for the LX and to some extent the Gx470 seems to exert the same behavior.
the rx300 is perfectly fine.
the rx300 is perfectly fine.
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I tried sitting in a couple of other LC's and for some reason feel that it could be a problem particular to the seat. I'm thinking of swapping the passenger side with the driver side to see if it's the seat that's causing this. but before I do this i would like to know if the two seats are swapable...
5'11 /190 and our '99 LC with 70K seats are great. And I have long legs...which usually is a problem for me getting the seat back far enough in most cars these days.
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after extensive research it turns out that while most owners havent seen this to be a problem, the seat configurations on the 100 series totally goes against the ergonomics of a 'good seat'.
the back support is supposed to be so that it can support the spine in an s shape. the back of the 100 series is almost, if not totally, flat and rests the spine against it in a very flat manner with no curves or cushions that rests against the middle of the spine to maintain the s configuration of the back. almost ever other suv and car I have tried in the past month to validate this has turned out that it is infact a sad truth about the 100 series seats. I am surprised that the seats are in production since 98 without any complaints by the owners regarding their comfortness.
regardless, I wanted to find out if anyone has had a chance to have their old seats rebuilt, re-foamed, either themselves or by the shop. I am contemplating the idea of adding extra support in the back by taking out the seat so that there can be some level of comfort brought to the seat.
any ideas would be appreciated.
thnx.
the back support is supposed to be so that it can support the spine in an s shape. the back of the 100 series is almost, if not totally, flat and rests the spine against it in a very flat manner with no curves or cushions that rests against the middle of the spine to maintain the s configuration of the back. almost ever other suv and car I have tried in the past month to validate this has turned out that it is infact a sad truth about the 100 series seats. I am surprised that the seats are in production since 98 without any complaints by the owners regarding their comfortness.
regardless, I wanted to find out if anyone has had a chance to have their old seats rebuilt, re-foamed, either themselves or by the shop. I am contemplating the idea of adding extra support in the back by taking out the seat so that there can be some level of comfort brought to the seat.
any ideas would be appreciated.
thnx.
I keep the lumbar adjust all the way forward. The 100 is the best ride I've ever had. 10-hours a day and no problem.
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I thought you are selling that thing
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Allright, figured out what's been bugging me about these seats all along.
it's not so much the back support. but the fact that in order to (in a twisted way) increase the front leg space, toyota basically tilted the structure of the seat almost about 45degrees towards the back. if you notice, the base of the seat is at a very steep tilt. with the 80 series the base is almost straight in parallel with the floor of the car.
based upon simple ergonomics, the base of the car needs to be in parallel with the base of the seat in order to keep the thighs and knees at parallel for comfrot etc.
the way these seats are, with the driver pretty much tilted back while sitting, increases back pressure by a magnitude of more than twice (came from extensive research from ergonmics websites).
so i raised the height of the seat all the way to the max where the base of the seat does become parallel to the base of the car. all is well at that point. but.. now the leg space is at minimal, and the height is so that you would feel you're sitting on the roof of the car.
any solutions ... ?
it's not so much the back support. but the fact that in order to (in a twisted way) increase the front leg space, toyota basically tilted the structure of the seat almost about 45degrees towards the back. if you notice, the base of the seat is at a very steep tilt. with the 80 series the base is almost straight in parallel with the floor of the car.
based upon simple ergonomics, the base of the car needs to be in parallel with the base of the seat in order to keep the thighs and knees at parallel for comfrot etc.
the way these seats are, with the driver pretty much tilted back while sitting, increases back pressure by a magnitude of more than twice (came from extensive research from ergonmics websites).
so i raised the height of the seat all the way to the max where the base of the seat does become parallel to the base of the car. all is well at that point. but.. now the leg space is at minimal, and the height is so that you would feel you're sitting on the roof of the car.
any solutions ... ?
I think there is an 80 thread about effectively lengthening the seat to pedal distance...wonder if it would be the same or similar for the 100?
