Propane Hot Water Heater Deal

[Dangil]

Anyone interested in going in on this with me? 2 for 1 ends Dec 3. I would have it shipped to my box in Blain. Would come in at around $100US (plus duty perhaps) for the L5 model, which looks adequate I think.

http://www.eccotemp.com/eccotemp-tankless-water-heaters/

Some user reviews from the tech board:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/camping-outdoor-gear/786027-all-you-smelly-stinky-bastids.html#post8946136

Looks like a decent alternative to plumbing into a vehicles coolant loop.

 

[Greg_B]

Yup.

Thanks.

gb

 

[AJAEbj42]

Excellent find, Dan!

There will be two as prizes at the Christmas party.

Total Cost for two with shipping to Sumas and conversion to CDN was $204 (there may be PST and GST on top after I pick them up)

Just FYI in case anyone else is planning to order

 

[Fantom]

Sweet!, and if I don't win one, I'm looking into buying one.

 

[Enigma]

Tankless rocks. I replaced our hot water tank in the house with a Rinnai unit several years ago, endless long hot showers.

 

[Dangil]

Yup.

Thanks.

gb

Ordered

 

[Glenn-BJ74]

Tankless rocks. I replaced our hot water tank in the house with a Rinnai unit several years ago, endless long hot showers.

Yes - but they are limited in flow volume - when I looked into it 2012 when I replaced my last hot water tank they do only one shower at a time - so in my last house with a suite-- tankless would have worked. You need 2.5 usgal per minute per shower - but maybe bigger ones are now available.
I will look into it again when the time comes.

 

[Glenn-BJ74]

"The L5 will offer a 30 to 35 degree rise at 1.3 gallons per minute."

That flow rate is similar to mine and is adequate - I used the Harbour Freight 12 v pump.
When camping the temperature of available water can vary from 40F to 65F and so any water heater (like my coolant heat exchanger) only adds a set amount of heat to the water. When the water is cold I recirculate it in my 5 gallon water tank (NATO can on the front bumper) several minutes to bring it up to 105F. Also a shower enclosure is useful when there is a wind blowing to contain some of the water heat - otherwise you can freeze your nads off when its windy. The downside is they are a pita to collapse - to say they least-- ha-ha. Something to consider when you go to set it up.
A shower after days on the dusty trail = priceless...

 

[Enigma]

Yes - but they are limited in flow volume - when I looked into it 2012 when I replaced my last hot water tank they do only one shower at a time - so in my last house with a suite-- tankless would have worked. You need 2.5 usgal per minute per shower - but maybe bigger ones are now available.
I will look into it again when the time comes.

No flow issues with ours. I can have a shower with the dishwasher running and not really notice anything significant. You don't get those cold surges either like when someone flushes a toilet when in the shower.
But more on topic, for a camping setup you wouldn't need to worry about that.
For camping, the Coleman hot water heater I have works pretty good, I can only imagine that a larger unit like this Ecotemp would be even better.

 

[BCR4619]

If the dishwasher is running, it only fills up for under a min with a 3/8" line so you will never notice anything.

It all depends on the model and the price point, like anything else.

New houses these days are mostly heated with radiant floors so you still have a storage tank (50ish gallons) that's heated indirectly from your boiler

Anywho, back to hooking up 2 50gallon tanks!

 

[Enigma]

Oh yah..Christians a plumber..and happy (belated) birthday.

I've got a trusty old Superhot boiler heating our house (baseboard radiant registers)

 

[Vanny]

Yes - but they are limited in flow volume - when I looked into it 2012 when I replaced my last hot water tank they do only one shower at a time - so in my last house with a suite-- tankless would have worked. You need 2.5 usgal per minute per shower - but maybe bigger ones are now available.
I will look into it again when the time comes.

I agree Glen. Tankless is limited with flow. If the flow can not keep up you theoretically can end up with drops coming out of your tap. I have a legal suite in my place with separate laundry so I installed a hybrid HWT.

Now back on topic.

 

[Glenn-BJ74]

The chart here here says their biggest tankless unit with 40F incoming water (winter) produces only 3.8 usgpm for an unrestricted flow shower will use 2.5 usgal per minute ( I do not use flow restrictors - I like to blast the dirt off!) - so their biggest unit can't do 2 showers at once until incoming water temp is 55F (maybe summer)

http://www.e-tankless.com/choose_heater.php

same idea applies with portable showers -- the incoming water temperature is really important if the water heater will work on one pass -- to get to shower temp about 105F.

 

[Vanny]

The hybrid is great. It has a 25gal storage tank for fast heating and during storage it doesn't have to heat as often as a typical HWH. We have two households with two laundry stations running off of it and not once have we had a lack of flow or hot water. Highly recommended for in home use. Don't know how it would be for camping . Now back on topic.

 

[Enigma]

No numbers handy, but real world experence with my Coleman hot water heater has proven that there is no need to recirculate warmed water to get it hot.
I can stick the intake nozzle into very cold water (the pool up at the waterfall on Sylvester for example..quite chilly even in summer) and in very short order you will burn yourself from the shower nozzle if it's held at max temperature (one has to hold it the dial at max, safety feature).
GPM wise, you are not going to "blast" dirt off, but it works very well.

 

[Greg_B]

Ordered

Send me a PM when you can, with the details of you want to handle this.

Thanks again.

gb

 

[Vanny]

No numbers handy, but real world experence with my Coleman hot water heater has proven that there is no need to recirculate warmed water to get it hot.
I can stick the intake nozzle into very cold water (the pool up at the waterfall on Sylvester for example..quite chilly even in summer) and in very short order you will burn yourself from the shower nozzle if it's held at max temperature (one has to hold it the dial at max, safety feature).
GPM wise, you are not going to "blast" dirt off, but it works very well.

A couple of years ago I had someone give me one of the coleman units. It was out of the packaging but never used on my friends sailboat as he intended. I have not taken it out of the bag. Fairly straight forward use I would imagine?

 

[Enigma]

Yup, just need to charge the battery (either 12v or 110v) and hook up a propane bottle. They are built to use those little 1 lb bottles but you can use an adaptor into a bigger tank also.
The battery charge lasts quite awhile, and they are decent on fuel use as well.

Only real downside is they are rather bulky in size.

 

[Antarctican]

Excited to see this thread and the prizes. Have done research those are good units, had put them on my shortlust for my trailer

 

[Enigma]

Dug this up again whilst searchin....

@asutherland was able to make 'hiself less stinky on our recent camping trip using our Coleman shower taking water directly from Cariboo Lake. He has a Zodi so could provide a comparison now.