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Old post but, Spring Bar is a heavy beast of a tent! 70lbs.
Aditionally, one must pound 23 big stakes into the ground before you set it up. If you are not camping on a field or beach, someplace where the ground may not be perfect, it will not set up well. Gotta leave time to pull all them stakes back out when it's time to roll...
It has it's moments, but I would not recommend one for an overland or quick camp situation.

I would agree. I ended up buying a Kodiak tent earlier this year, and while it's a nice tent, it's not something I would use for a one night trip or moving every day. It is a beast and takes up a lot of room, but at least the poles and body of the tent are in separate bags which makes it more manageable.

The actual setup of the tent isn't that bad, not as quick as the 30 seconds for an OZ tent, but around 5 minutes or so. But that doesn't include all the pre setup and post setup. Retrieving the tent, clearing the site, setting up ground cloth, staking the corners, etc. I've only used it a few times in no wind so I only stake the corners, I couldn't imagine having to stake down 20+ stakes everytime. Once all that is done, the tent goes up pretty quickly, and only then you can begin unpacking your sleeping gear. Overall it's a half hour or more setup time at a relaxed pace. An OZ tent might be slightly faster to put up the tent, but that's still only a small fraction of the overall setup time. It's a great tent if you plan on staying in one place for a few days.
 
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