There is a '95 Fzj80 at the mazda dealer (morris?) in minnetonka, dealer says it has lockers.
anyone available to go look at it for me?
thanks
anyone available to go look at it for me?
thanks
need help looking at an 80 in Minnetonka
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LCphil said:
Just another SW tard carrying on about rust. I live in MA, 10 miles from the ocean and drive a truck with 185k on it that has spent it's entire life up here and have had 2 bolts give me a problem. But then again I wash it every year whether it needs it or not.
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landtank said:
So, southwest guys are tards because they don't like rust on their junk? Nice, thanks for you input.
No, I would not buy a rust bucket, I like to work on my junk without fighting rusty fasteners and worrying about the hatch and around the windows rusting out.
The 80s aren't rust buckets up here. The few places I have some rust, others in dryer climates have also had it and sometimes more.
To elimate whole areas of the country as possible locations of finding an 80 because of this is crazy.
And you guys with your rust predictions remind me of chicken little.
To elimate whole areas of the country as possible locations of finding an 80 because of this is crazy.
And you guys with your rust predictions remind me of chicken little.
I've gotta Jersey raised 93 that looks OK to me. Gonna be near the ocean (very near, in Maine) in two weeks. I know salt that is used for roads will accelerate corrosion but that’s why we wash them. 
Once a year, whether it needs it or not. 
Once a year, whether it needs it or not.
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landtank said:
Coming from "chicken little", your definition of "some rust" and "rust bucket" are very different from mine, when I shop for a truck any hint of rust is an immediate deal killer. Living in a climate where my truck will NEVER rust I think it's crazy to import a rusty truck.
I worked on cars for many years for a living, now I do it as a hobby, as in for fun. One of our club members has a '94 that came from the Denver area, you would probably call it "some rust, a little rust or whatever" only has a a couple of small bubbles near the window on the rear hatch, I call it a rust bucket. I helped him adjust the drag link, after fighting the clamp bolts loose the rod wouldn't turn, PB blaster, hammer, torch, repeat. After much sweat we pulled it off the truck and the used anvil and vice with the above devices and finally got the ends out, cleaned the threads with the wire brushes, applied anti-seize, reinstalled and adjusted, not what I call fun. On my truck I grab two 17mm wrenches, loosen the clamp bolts and turn the rod, by HAND.
So if being picky about what truck I spend money on makes me a tard in your high and mighty world, then so be it, but this tard still aint buying no damn rust bucket!
I have a '73 FJ40 with 300K and am willing to bet it has less rust than your '96 80.
People looking for help with buying a truck and you think that a 100% rust free vehicle is the only option and telling them to only consider a few states is realistic. So now this guy who comes here looking for help thinks he needs to pony up another couple of thousand and have it shipped in to enjoy the truck of his dreams or suffer the consequences of windows rotting out and so on.
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landtank said:
"I" didn't tell anybody what they should buy and really could careless what other people spend their money on, but thanks for putting words in my mouth! I would prefer that people didn't export our clean old junk to the rust belt to rust away.
landtank said:
What I do take offense to is YOU calling people from the Southwest (ME) tards for caring about how much rust a truck has. You may not care but, I would think that most when buying a truck the amount of rust would be a concern, requiring closer inspection if it's from the rust belt.
One piece of advice I can give is that the terms "very little rust" and "almost rust free" have different meaning across the country, out here they mean there is some surface rust where the frame hit a rock, in some areas it means I couldn't shove a screwdriver through the frame! If you have someone local do an inspection make sure you understand what their terms actually mean.
Tard out!
The guy just wants to know if someone will look at a truck for him. Sheesh. Look at his sig. I think he can make up his own mind. Again for him, anyone available to look a a cruiser in MINNETONKA.
Cheers,
Sean.
Cheers,
Sean.
In post #3 I qouted the link that then had only 1 reply and it advised against looking at a specific vehicle because of all the rust it would have and the amount of extra repair it would need because of it.
My reply was focused on the advice given. I don't feel that location is a reason not to look at any particular truck. Some might only be able to afford a truck from these locations. My jab was at SW people who feel that the only truck worth buying reguardless of where you live is one from that area and all others aren't worth considering.
I personally don't know the climate in Iowa, but I'd never consider spending extra money on a southern truck, up here it will just look like all the rest in a couple of years. Now if I lived down south, I doubt very much I'd buy a truck from up north, unless that is all I could afford.
My reply was focused on the advice given. I don't feel that location is a reason not to look at any particular truck. Some might only be able to afford a truck from these locations. My jab was at SW people who feel that the only truck worth buying reguardless of where you live is one from that area and all others aren't worth considering.
I personally don't know the climate in Iowa, but I'd never consider spending extra money on a southern truck, up here it will just look like all the rest in a couple of years. Now if I lived down south, I doubt very much I'd buy a truck from up north, unless that is all I could afford.
While I no longer live in MN, that FZJ80 is probably pretty rusty. My 97 lived in MN for seven years (about ten miles from Minnetonka), NY for one, and now lower Alabama. I wouldn't worry about body rust unless it was in an accident or something. Mine really has no body rust short of a few spots of rust in some of the deeper rock dings on the bumper and side mirrors. The bottom, however, is rusted to s***. The exhaust mounts all broke a couple years ago and when I changed the T-case oil, I broke off all three bolts removing the skid plate. I also broke 3 out of four bolts holding on the rear sway bar mounts, causing me to switch to the older, side mounting style. Even with 2 weeks of PB Blast, I still break about 1/3 of the bolts in the bottom.
However, I can twist my drag link w/o removing it from the truck. All it takes is a week of PB, an little MAPP gas, and a pipe wrench turned by proping it on the floor jack and lifting it while spinning the ends individually with a 17mm wrench, a 3ft pipe, and all of my body weight.
There are positives to getting a rusty truck though. It will make you better at drilling out bolts. It will also make you better at swearing, plus, it will make you stronger. People from the SW may not be "tards," but they can't be manly men like us in the North if they are turning their draglinks by hand.
A rusty truck is like adding a bowflex to the underside--it'll give you a good work out.
However, I can twist my drag link w/o removing it from the truck. All it takes is a week of PB, an little MAPP gas, and a pipe wrench turned by proping it on the floor jack and lifting it while spinning the ends individually with a 17mm wrench, a 3ft pipe, and all of my body weight.
There are positives to getting a rusty truck though. It will make you better at drilling out bolts. It will also make you better at swearing, plus, it will make you stronger. People from the SW may not be "tards," but they can't be manly men like us in the North if they are turning their draglinks by hand.
A rusty truck is like adding a bowflex to the underside--it'll give you a good work out.
Vehicle inspected yesterday
Contrary to popular belief there are a lot of cruisers with no rust here as most of them sat in garages when mom wasn't driving the kids to the mall or to soccer practice.
I looked at the trucl yesterday and if you offer them 9000 as I think you did it's yours if it is still there. There were three people waiting to look at it when I returned from my test drive. The rear locker wouldn't lock, the front right berf is not in good shape and thumps in a tight turn they were both dry with very little grease in them, the bearing in the right front squeeked in a slow turn but not on the straight, the leather is dry and cracked a lot in all the seats, there is water leaking in the pasenger floor, the burl dash wood is popping a bit and is discolored, broken antenna motor. That's the negative. The body is near perfect other than the usual discoloration of the flairs, sweet color light gray with gray interior, carpet is great, there is a slight indentation around the right front blinker, nothing a new ABR wouldn't cover up as well as skuff marks on each corner of the front bumper. All body pannels are original and it didn't look as if there had been any body repair. Alloys are slightly pitted, there is a roof rack and wind deflector, no running boards and believe it or not there is no body rust, yeah that's right, no rust If you have mechanical skills it would not be hard to bring it up to tip top running shape. The berf has me a bit worried though. It could prolly be well lubed and last quite a long time before repair. no leaks or drips that I could see in the drive train, nice and tight. It drove very nice and suspension was tight and responsive, tires are Bridgestone Revo's with 2/3 tread left. All in all a pretty nice truck for the price. Good luck. 
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Contrary to popular belief there are a lot of cruisers with no rust here as most of them sat in garages when mom wasn't driving the kids to the mall or to soccer practice.
I looked at the trucl yesterday and if you offer them 9000 as I think you did it's yours if it is still there. There were three people waiting to look at it when I returned from my test drive. The rear locker wouldn't lock, the front right berf is not in good shape and thumps in a tight turn they were both dry with very little grease in them, the bearing in the right front squeeked in a slow turn but not on the straight, the leather is dry and cracked a lot in all the seats, there is water leaking in the pasenger floor, the burl dash wood is popping a bit and is discolored, broken antenna motor. That's the negative. The body is near perfect other than the usual discoloration of the flairs, sweet color light gray with gray interior, carpet is great, there is a slight indentation around the right front blinker, nothing a new ABR wouldn't cover up as well as skuff marks on each corner of the front bumper. All body pannels are original and it didn't look as if there had been any body repair. Alloys are slightly pitted, there is a roof rack and wind deflector, no running boards and believe it or not there is no body rust, yeah that's right, no rust
If you have mechanical skills it would not be hard to bring it up to tip top running shape. The berf has me a bit worried though. It could prolly be well lubed and last quite a long time before repair. no leaks or drips that I could see in the drive train, nice and tight. It drove very nice and suspension was tight and responsive, tires are Bridgestone Revo's with 2/3 tread left. All in all a pretty nice truck for the price. Good luck. 
Rust
As a person from the SW nearly my whole life, All you guys are probably right. We are partial to NO Rust because we generally could be. When buying locally rust is never a factor. So I guess what I am saying is that people do have different definitions and expectations of rust. I never would have thought I would purchase a cruiser(lx450) from MN. But I did and for a lot less than I could have anywhere else. The body/ engine comp. are spotless. There is some rust on the rear hitch and running boards and a few other places along the undercarriage but not thousands of dollars worth or repairs if I wanted to sandblast and recoat. It probably will require a little more monkeying around under the truck but not much. For people that don't wrench on their vehicles it wouldn't even be an issue. I think its all relative. It depends who owned how they ran it and who is going to own and how they will run it. Mine was owned by a soccer mom and serviced at the dealership. So, every vehicle is worth looking at. I paid under 11.5K and the truck had 93K.... just my .02
As a person from the SW nearly my whole life, All you guys are probably right. We are partial to NO Rust because we generally could be. When buying locally rust is never a factor. So I guess what I am saying is that people do have different definitions and expectations of rust. I never would have thought I would purchase a cruiser(lx450) from MN. But I did and for a lot less than I could have anywhere else. The body/ engine comp. are spotless. There is some rust on the rear hitch and running boards and a few other places along the undercarriage but not thousands of dollars worth or repairs if I wanted to sandblast and recoat. It probably will require a little more monkeying around under the truck but not much. For people that don't wrench on their vehicles it wouldn't even be an issue. I think its all relative. It depends who owned how they ran it and who is going to own and how they will run it. Mine was owned by a soccer mom and serviced at the dealership. So, every vehicle is worth looking at. I paid under 11.5K and the truck had 93K.... just my .02
PhotoGod,
Since Casey evidently isn't going to get back on the thread and thank you for taking the time to go carefully look over a rig for him, I will. It's people like you who are willing to go out of their way for forum members they may not even know that make this a great place to hang out. I've had Pimp check one out for me (nice one), and a guy on the 80sCool forum checked one out for me in Florida which turned out to be a misrepresented turd and saved me big $$$ on flying there. So I have benefitted from the Cruiser brothers personally in this way.
On behalf of the forum, a big THANK YOU for checking that rig out.
Regards
DougM
Since Casey evidently isn't going to get back on the thread and thank you for taking the time to go carefully look over a rig for him, I will. It's people like you who are willing to go out of their way for forum members they may not even know that make this a great place to hang out. I've had Pimp check one out for me (nice one), and a guy on the 80sCool forum checked one out for me in Florida which turned out to be a misrepresented turd and saved me big $$$ on flying there. So I have benefitted from the Cruiser brothers personally in this way.
On behalf of the forum, a big THANK YOU for checking that rig out.
Regards
DougM
No problem Doug and thanks for the thanks. I never expect a response from doing things for other people that I don't know or will prolly never meet. Good karma makes the rounds and it was my turn. I have had a really long run of s***ty luck so I'm trying to correct it any way I can! 
The truck was sold the same day I looked at it so there was really no chance to get a shot at it . If I had had the $9000 it would be sitting in my driveway right now. I need to sell a perfect Model A pickup so I can jump on deals like that!
The truck was sold the same day I looked at it so there was really no chance to get a shot at it . If I had had the $9000 it would be sitting in my driveway right now. I need to sell a perfect Model A pickup so I can jump on deals like that!
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Tim/guys sorry for the late reply!
Guys,
I drove up Friday night and bought the truck first thing Saturday morning, based on Tim's assessment. Thank you!
the truck is rust free, one owner (female). came with new floor mats and plastic wood bezel set. It is one of the best 80's i have ever seen.
Tim, thank you again for looking at it for me.
My other 80, w/o lockers will be on it's way to a new owner in Spokane WA next week.
Guys,
I drove up Friday night and bought the truck first thing Saturday morning, based on Tim's assessment. Thank you!
the truck is rust free, one owner (female). came with new floor mats and plastic wood bezel set. It is one of the best 80's i have ever seen.
Tim, thank you again for looking at it for me.
My other 80, w/o lockers will be on it's way to a new owner in Spokane WA next week.
And just so you all know, Casey offered to buy me a membership in the TLCA or a TLCA hat for my trouble. I took the hat offer. All in all a great transaction and Casey got a nice vehicle. Thanks Casey!
Outstanding, another happy rustbucket owner
My LX 450 was born in Wayzata, Minnesota and sold to Florida after 48,000 miles before I brought it to California at 130,000ish. It has a few rusty bolt heads and some red here and there underneath, but the only real rust was under the roof rack shoes and wasn't that bad all things considered. Definitely no rust in window frames etc. Some highway chips in the leading edge of the hood were down to the sheetmetal so I did a 1/2 inch bead of herculiner across the front for protection after sanding/prepping.