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I vote yes! Sounds very interesting.
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Thanks for the response man.
I will start with this clip , just to make you feel warm.
I got an 87 Toy truck plus a front axle from an 82 for this swap. Bellhousing from a 20r and rear springs from a Nissan.
The transmission is a late sm420 and the Marlin adapter for the toy case.
I am using the rear from the 87 for wider tracks and doing the ifs hub swap on tthe front axle and that is the reason for removing the front hubs from the 87 that you see in that clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_tMsJQfYmQ
I will start with this clip , just to make you feel warm.
I got an 87 Toy truck plus a front axle from an 82 for this swap. Bellhousing from a 20r and rear springs from a Nissan.
The transmission is a late sm420 and the Marlin adapter for the toy case.
I am using the rear from the 87 for wider tracks and doing the ifs hub swap on tthe front axle and that is the reason for removing the front hubs from the 87 that you see in that clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_tMsJQfYmQ
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For the IFS hub swap I am going with all the parts from the IFS which requires to make a spacer between the hub and the rotor (11/16" thick).
The first pic is side by side shot of the fj60 hub and the ifs hub with few spacer I threw together to get some measuerments.
The first pic is side by side shot of the fj60 hub and the ifs hub with few spacer I threw together to get some measuerments.
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And a shot of the poor 22r waiting in the LR engiine bay.
The SM420 makes it very tight for a front drive shaft.
The front diff in the toy axles is about the best fit since these axles have the shortestt short side.
The SM420 makes it very tight for a front drive shaft.
The front diff in the toy axles is about the best fit since these axles have the shortestt short side.
Interesting trick for using the IFS hubs. I have seen people use different calipers and rotors or place the calipers on the front of the mounting ears but this is yet another pretty slick way to re-use the IFS rotor and make it work.
OK, just so I have the general idea, Toyota motor, Chevy Trans, Toy t-case, Toy axles and LR body and frame?
OK, just so I have the general idea, Toyota motor, Chevy Trans, Toy t-case, Toy axles and LR body and frame?
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Yes , you are right .
I am very sure the way i HAVE DONE THE IFS SWAP I have seen IT
here on this forum. So I can't take any credit for that .
I have to add few things to sum up what I am doing with this , I am not good at writing aout this sort of stuff.
The truck will be sprung under and will have 31s or 235/75/15s.
When I got this LR , I already had the sm420 and the toy case and I was looking for the LR for the body and the frame.
Actually the original plan was to use the axles from an fj40 with the toy box mated to the cruiser case, but Marlin sdapter is not offered right now and I was told that it might be discoutinued.
So this more like plan B.
It was hard to find the toy truck front axles , but after about 8 months I was able to find this one , but it came with the J arm missing.
I have tried the 60 axkles ,but they will not fit in the back and will require a lot more work to fit in the front.
I have seen a lot of misinformation when I was searching about this kinda of swap.
The land rover axles are slightly wider than the ( toy and 40 ) axles , but slightly shorter than 60 axles.
The LR frame rails are parallel and both axles are not centered in the wheel wells , they are more forward.
Also the rear is slightly offset to right unlike the cruiser axles , this is because the LR drivetrain is greatly offset to the driver side .
This means the 40 axles barely fit in the rear and the 60 axles no way in the rear without modifying somethings.
Anyway , I want to drive this truck on the road in the winter and possibly put a snow blower on it. So I opted for the wider axles and slightly longer wheel base, by moving the rear axle 2.5" back.
The following pics , will show how it all fit together.
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The weather is going to be too cold for few weeks and I won't be working on the truck, but I am going to work on the transfer case.
I have to make a forward shifter .
I can do this in the house where I will be warm.
Here is a shot of the case which I rebuilt aout 2 months ago.
I will be using it to make the shifter.
I have few ideas ,but I will search for more and any input will be great.
The shifter will be something like the following sketch
I have to make a forward shifter .
I can do this in the house where I will be warm.
Here is a shot of the case which I rebuilt aout 2 months ago.
I will be using it to make the shifter.
I have few ideas ,but I will search for more and any input will be great.
The shifter will be something like the following sketch
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I started making the shifter for the case and kinda came up with a more simple idea.
started with a 3/16 plate drilled the 4 mounting holes and cut a solt for the shifter .
Another piece of squre tubing and one round tubing.
This is not finished, but you can get a rough idea of how it all goes together.
I was using an ac stick with 6013, so it didn't turn out as good as I hoped, but I will finish it with a mig and it should clean up very good.
Still needs another stick , I don't know till I finish insalling the drivetrain if I can use it as a top shifter or modify the sticks so I can use it as a remote shifter.
So this will still need another stick and knobs.
Then a rubber boot.
started with a 3/16 plate drilled the 4 mounting holes and cut a solt for the shifter .
Another piece of squre tubing and one round tubing.
This is not finished, but you can get a rough idea of how it all goes together.
I was using an ac stick with 6013, so it didn't turn out as good as I hoped, but I will finish it with a mig and it should clean up very good.
Still needs another stick , I don't know till I finish insalling the drivetrain if I can use it as a top shifter or modify the sticks so I can use it as a remote shifter.
So this will still need another stick and knobs.
Then a rubber boot.
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Now I need opinion and advice,
Since the floor was very cold the past few weeks ,I worked on getting lights for the LR which was in need of the hard to find 4" signal lenses and the front park lights.
I came up with a cheap alternative while trying to keep close to the stock look.
So how do you like those one?
The first pics is the alternative signals and the next is the stock one with the alternative next to it.
then the last pic is the alternative front park light and signal light.
Since the floor was very cold the past few weeks ,I worked on getting lights for the LR which was in need of the hard to find 4" signal lenses and the front park lights.
I came up with a cheap alternative while trying to keep close to the stock look.
So how do you like those one?
The first pics is the alternative signals and the next is the stock one with the alternative next to it.
then the last pic is the alternative front park light and signal light.
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Now the advice,
I am getting ready to start on fitting the front axles, I am wondering about the front being setup for SOA, Is that going to be a problem in SUA?
The land rover front springs are setup like the toy truck front springs with shackles to the rear and hangers to the front .
My concern is getting the the steering working properly , but I have no idea how the axle sits in the Toy truck.
any insight or measurements would be greatly appreciated.
And thanks in advance .
I am getting ready to start on fitting the front axles, I am wondering about the front being setup for SOA, Is that going to be a problem in SUA?
The land rover front springs are setup like the toy truck front springs with shackles to the rear and hangers to the front .
My concern is getting the the steering working properly , but I have no idea how the axle sits in the Toy truck.
any insight or measurements would be greatly appreciated.
And thanks in advance .
as far as the steering goes, it looks like it'll come down to what you have room for. toy truck axles have a push/pull so the pitman arm goes turns front/back. and doesnt require a lot of room
most people opt to go crossover over steering with an IFS steering box, but you have to run a lift with this so the tie-rods dont hit the leaf springs
cool project! theres a slightly easier way of using ifs hubs on a solid axle without having to use a spacer. if you end up having problems anyway.
most people opt to go crossover over steering with an IFS steering box, but you have to run a lift with this so the tie-rods dont hit the leaf springs
cool project! theres a slightly easier way of using ifs hubs on a solid axle without having to use a spacer. if you end up having problems anyway.
Cool project, I like those old LR's.
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Thanks for the info, I had few solid axle trucks and now I know what you are saiying.as far as the steering goes, it looks like it'll come down to what you have room for. toy truck axles have a push/pull so the pitman arm goes turns front/back. and doesnt require a lot of room
most people opt to go crossover over steering with an IFS steering box, but you have to run a lift with this so the tie-rods dont hit the leaf springs
cool project! theres a slightly easier way of using ifs hubs on a solid axle without having to use a spacer. if you end up having problems anyway.
I am going to keep the stock LR steering ,till I find an fj60 power steering box. The axle was missing the j arm when I got it and I can only find the 60 arms so far.
The steering is already linked together and steers fine, but I am concerned about how it will steer on the road.
Maybe I didn't word my question clearly.
To put it straightly , I need to figure at what angle should I locate the steering knuckles, or do I have to leave the pearches unwelded and correct the angle later ?
Those headlights are junk, I will nead new ones later,but you are right they are not installed correctly, Good eyes thanks
Thanks , I normally like the fj40, but I give up fixing the body on my 40 and I am trying my luck with the aliminum LR.
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There is a 4runner (93) with a plow, that I might be getting.
The guy says the clutch went in it and needs rear brakes. The frame is not road worthy in it.
The 22re runs good and the plow hydraulics were all rebuilt.
What do you think should I go for it or not.
I don't know much about them 4 runners , but I think aside from the motor , there isn't much I could use from the runner.
The guy says the clutch went in it and needs rear brakes. The frame is not road worthy in it.
The 22re runs good and the plow hydraulics were all rebuilt.
What do you think should I go for it or not.
I don't know much about them 4 runners , but I think aside from the motor , there isn't much I could use from the runner.