m416 spare tire mount on front? ideas

[eclipsegst97]

My current trailer in pic.

Looking for cimments on my ideas below or even potential links to mounts to use. I use this trailer on highway, Starbucks, washbaord forest trails and offraod so a tire mounter below the trailer is not ideal.

Id rather not carry the spare in the spot it currently sit. Id like to move fwd and sit in between the V of the trailer tongue.
But to have that happen I'd need tomove the hand brake.

Caveat Id like to do as little as possible to accomplish this so I dont think Ill move the hand brake.
Options
1-I;d like to find a spare tire mount to that sit further out enough to clear the hand brake
2- move the tire slightly off center away from the hand brake. and use the current side bracket the tire restst on. To do this I'd need to have space/ lnegthen studs / have a backing plate. I'd also have to remove one of the front hooks and id rather not do that. Id also need to put a plate on the V so I could keep the tire weight not entirely on the mount. I'm also not keep on the spacer solelybeing the only contact on the tubm would also need a front plate between the spacers and front tub. So spacer, plate, tub then backing plate.
3-install the tire inside the trailer tun in the front. Use a strap(s) from each corner hook to kseep it settled,
4- find a mount that angle the tire back so that the hand brake can be used.

 

[80t0ylc]

Why do you want to move it? It looks like you may not be able to use the existing mounting bracket on the front without some modification to the front. Tire will have to sit higher than it is now, to clear the frame (tongue). That would necessitate having to attach the mounting bracket higher than it sits now which would mean having to extend the front panel up somehow.

 

[eclipsegst97]

Why do you want to move it? It looks like you may not be able to use the existing mounting bracket on the front without some modification to the front. Tire will have to sit higher than it is now, to clear the frame (tongue). That would necessitate having to attach the mounting bracket higher than it sits now which would mean having to extend the front panel up somehow.

Where it sits now it makes the trailer wider .
Also more weight on one side than the other.
Not a clean look either

But you are right any bracket to sit on the V or even on only one part of the V would make it sit hight and need some adjustment to t he trailer top "lip"

 

[NyNomad]

im with eclipsegst97, not a clean look. To offset the weight you could do a jerry can on the driver's side... is a trailer hitch in the back out of the question?

 

[fireflyr]

Funny. I just did this front mount this morning.
A piece of 2x4 steel cut to fit between the front frame rails. The elbow is just long enough to keep the tire above the frame by 1/4”.

 

[fireflyr]

Years ago I had put a receiver in the rear frame rail and it worked great if you had weight in the trailer. If not it started to wag above 55.
I ended up cutting that mount apart and just welding it to the piece of steel in front.

 

[eclipsegst97]

Funny. I just did this front mount this morning.
A piece of 2x4 steel cut to fit between the front frame rails. The elbow is just long enough to keep the tire above the frame by 1/4”.
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Nice.. 2x4 between the V.
Then an elbow to that 2x4 .
Then a metal circ plate with holes. And install nut a tonattche the tire ?

 

[fireflyr]

Yep. I have m416 wheels on my m100 which have a different backspacing. The hubs actually require 2 quarter inch spacers each with longer studs. I just welded up that elbow and mounting plate with scrap steel I had around. I use the word welded pretty loosely here.

 

[eclipsegst97]

Yep. I have m416 wheels on my m100 which have a different backspacing. The hubs actually require 2 quarter inch spacers each with longer studs. I just welded up that elbow and mounting plate with scrap steel I had around. I use the word welded pretty loosely here.

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Ha. I need to learn how to weld.

But might be easier to find a spare tire carrier and bolt it to a 2x 4 steel to the frame