I'm looking at LX600s. I'd love a gas engine Overtrail. Do you think that may happen in 27? I'm gauging if I should wait or buy a 600 now and just assume an OT won't come. I'm not a hybrid fan, and I do want this to take on trails. I wish we could get a 300, but, alas, here we are. Located in the US.
LX600 Overtrail?
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Why do you think that?
Have you test driven a 600 and 700h yet? I back to backed a GX550 OT and LX700h OT and the 700h was much nicer. Granted the GX550 has a different tune (maybe smaller turbos too?) than the 600 but it’s also a little bit lighter.
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I have driven a 600, but not a 700. I like working on my cars and I just feel uncomfortable with a hybrid. Maybe I’m being silly, but is what it is.
With the amount of tech involved in cars these days, it will not be an easy feat to work on either a 600 or 700, bar from oil and filter changes and light maintenance. I know that there is a version of the 600 in OT form in Australia. See below:
That said, having driven a 600 and the 700, the hybrid powertrain is a million miles ahead and better. Better power, torque, fuel economy (not by much), etc, etc. The only downside is the battery taking up space in the trunk.
Enters the beauty of the 2-row OT. Pretty decent trunk space and not very much affected by the battery.
The 3-row is another story and a said one. Some people make it work, but the shelving system is laughable at best. So, if you need a 3 row to crunch your kid or their friends and are hellbent on an LX with a decent trunk, you only have the 600 as a decent option. But you will lose that outstanding hybrid engine with a ridiculous amount of low-end torque to go off-roading, since you mention you plan to do that. Oh, and since you are off-roading, you also lose the holy grail triple lock feature.
You can "build" a 600 Overtrail by slapping the 18-inch wheels and some decent tires on it, but you lose the two most amazing features of the 700 and you save almost no money.
I am hoping that the hybrid motor will actually make the entire package last longer. No more cold starts with low oil pressure as the electric motor spins the ICE unit faster than the starter to build oil pressure before firing. "Lugging" loads are handled by the electric motor. etc.
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Didn’t know the third row issues occurred with the 700. Def a consideration for me and the kids. We love the third row in our he 80 and 200.
Traded my '22 600 base for a '25 700hOT.
Liked the trunk space of the 600, and the more basic set up, but like other have said, the powertrain doesn't compare. The hybrid is fast and carries gobs of torque. In sport + it's a straight up sports car. And the AHC suspension is fantastic. Love hooking a trailer up by backing up in L and raising the ball right into the trailer hitch. Off road it's a billy goat, with 3 lockers climbing just about everything.
Get a two row lx700h OT if you can afford it, you won't be disappointed.
Liked the trunk space of the 600, and the more basic set up, but like other have said, the powertrain doesn't compare. The hybrid is fast and carries gobs of torque. In sport + it's a straight up sports car. And the AHC suspension is fantastic. Love hooking a trailer up by backing up in L and raising the ball right into the trailer hitch. Off road it's a billy goat, with 3 lockers climbing just about everything.
Get a two row lx700h OT if you can afford it, you won't be disappointed.
You are. Respectfully.
I’m gunna run my LX600 as far as I can before either the engine implodes or the recall forces me to replace the engine, then it’s gunna be a trade in for a LX700 OT 2door (at least that’s the plan for now)
Might be worth a little time looking into what Lexus has done to this hybrid system. Like adding a starter/alternator, waterproofing the battery compartment, plus some other unique characteristics.
I started with the 600 sport and was able to switch to the 700h this year. I love it. I’ve also owned the non hybrid tundra and a hybrid Sequioa. Now my only issue is I’d LOVE to switch out my tundra to a hybrid but I have sooo much invested into my tundras build I just can’t do it. I do absolutely love my 700.
I’d be a bit surprised, but you never know, if Lexus came out with a 600 OT. I’d think you’re more likely to see lexus fade out the deliveries of 600.
Don't think you'll be seeing an LX600 Overtrail anytime soon. Unfortunately, Lexus carries over the "you get what you get" mentality from Toyota, which is fine for a $40k car but honestly shouldn't be acceptable for a $120k Lexus. For example, my ideal spec would be an LX700h Overtrail with the Palomino interior option that you can only get on the luxury trim, and the F-Sport front bumper and grille that you can only get with the F-Sport trim, but such a combination can't even be optioned. The front bumper would be easy to retrofit, but if I want the Overtrail I have to compromise on the interior color, or get the luxury trim with my preferred interior but miss out on the triple lockers. I should be able to have my cake and eat it too for $120k.