Leaky birfs

[77mustard40]

Fwiw, we stock OEM Toyota, aftermarket, Marlin and Trail Gear inner axle seals for the 7x/8x/10x (and earlier models). We're happy selling customers whatever they like to use but are happy to share our experiences too. The Marlin seals are great, we've sold and installed tens of thousands of their HD seals for inner axles and pinions since they first hit the market in the late 2000's?. Marlin was a friend and we've stocked their products for decades. BUT, experience has shown they are not preferred for full-time 4WD 80's, particularly when any seal surface issues (grooves) exist. Fwiw, I don't know that anyone would argue the circlip is preferred to a spring, the opposite imo. Obviously your results vary, that's great, a dry axle is a good axle.

Totally agree with this, I use TEQ in the 80 and Marlin’s in the 40… sure miss that guy

 

[smorkington]

Toyota fanboys are so easy to rage bait

I uesd the Marlin seal due to a groove on my factory axle during my rebuild. 14,000 miles later, it leaks like a seive. Tomorrow, I'll be replacing with a new OEM axle and seal. The previous seal on the original axle last 290k.

The first sentence explains why you had an issue. Your poor judgement does not equate to a faulty product.

 

[smorkington]

Fwiw, we stock OEM Toyota, aftermarket, Marlin and Trail Gear inner axle seals for the 7x/8x/10x (and earlier models). We're happy selling customers whatever they like to use but are happy to share our experiences too. The Marlin seals are great, we've sold and installed tens of thousands of their HD seals for inner axles and pinions since they first hit the market in the late 2000's?. Marlin was a friend and we've stocked their products for decades. BUT, experience has shown they are not preferred for full-time 4WD 80's, particularly when any seal surface issues (grooves) exist. Fwiw, I don't know that anyone would argue the circlip is preferred to a spring, the opposite imo. Obviously your results vary, that's great, a dry axle is a good axle.

Springs can easily pop off during installation and removal of the axle shaft. Let’s say you are on the trail changing shafts and you bump the spring into the housing you’re screwed… Circlip circumvents this. I’d rather just run a good seal than carry spares and a seal puller / driver.

 

[mudgudgeon]

Why is it pathetic? They're a known, high-quality and very consistent seal, and they're very inexpensive.

Got to agree with this.

They are of a known quality and aftermarket seals are so hit and miss. The OEM seal is just one less variable.

For a part/assembly that is kind of problematic, I don't want to spend hours tearing down a filthy knuckle to change out a $9 seal when I could spend $9.20 on the OEM part

 

[mudgudgeon]

Springs can easily pop off during installation and removal of the axle shaft. Let’s say you are on the trail changing shafts and you bump the spring into the housing you’re screwed… Circlip circumvents this. I’d rather just run a good seal than carry spares and a seal puller / driver.

Pay attention when you're doing the work.
I've had springs come off, but I'd say everytime it's down to ham fisted handling on my part.

 

[Lead Head]

Toyota fanboys are so easy to rage bait

The first sentence explains why you had an issue. Your poor judgement does not equate to a faulty product.

I really think you have a misunderstanding of what "rage bait" means. You had a few very polite and mild-mannered replies, including from someone who has more experience selling, installing and using these seals than probably the entire ih8mud board combined, say that the OEM seals seem to perform best on an 80.

Nobody is saying those aftermarket seals are necessarily bad, or faulty. Just that the OEM seals, which Toyota has been using for about 26 years now seem to offer the most long-term durability. I personally don't care at all about which seal I use in my Cruiser. It's got tons of aftermarket replacement parts in it - I hold no allegiance to Toyota parts.

 

[Anvil]

Toyota fanboys are so easy to rage bait

The first sentence explains why you had an issue. Your poor judgement does not equate to a faulty product.

Not true. The Marlin seals in a different area than the OEM.