Last minute trailer project...

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I've been hesitant to post up what I was doing with my free time now that I'm relatively free for the summer. I'm heading to CO/Moab/Ouray in early July and wanted to avoid the hotel costs. That rationalized buying the RTT I was sporting at the Spring Tide Ride. However, just that short trip with relatively little off-roading, I could easily tell how much having the 125+ lb tent on top would impact challenging terrain.

I'd already committed to building an expedition trailer through the purchase of a M416 trailer. Upon tear down of the trailer and planning all the necessary modifications, I came to the realization that it would be easier to just build my own, at least to make this summer's trip.

So goes it. With ~100 ft of 1.75"/.12 DOM tubing laying on the garage floor, a new tubing bender bolted to the floor, it was time to get busy and see if I could pull this off before I have to leave early July. With my ever faithful daughters as my extra hands, into the world of tube bending we go.

I know what you are thinking, why tubing? Why not? I started the whole adventure by planning on building myself a set of tube fenders for the FJC. I know how much I'd spend if I had someone else do it, what a hassle it wold be to borrow/get access to a bender that I again manipulated my lovely spouse to allow another tool purchase. Instead of going the "conventional" method of using square/rectangular tubing, I opted to be different, no surprise there.

Then, to top it all off, Greg came by so we had to spend some time discussing the project. He had to bring up what a great idea to use the top off a 40 for the lid of the trailer. Nothing like complicating an already time constrained build up by going from 4 90 degree bends to ones that would match the top off a 40 as well as the dimensions.

Here is the frame, bent from a single piece of tubing. Talk about reliving a bad geometry exam question. It seems simple until one has to start bending. I used some masking tape to help visualize the crossbraces...

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Drove by Ramon's and picked up the top. Its in very good shape, kind of a crime (I'm sure some would say sacrilege) for me to have to section over 15" out of it to make a reasonable trailer. If I keep the track the same or just inside my FJC's, I couldn't really go wider than 48" for the tub. I marked the middle and the planned section that will be cut out...

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Now, to lay the potential frame onto the top to see how well I did matching the shape/bends of the 40 fiberglass top...

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Catching the right spot for the 5 degree bend to the front was a lucky shot in the dark...

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The frame on jack stands, cross braces welding in place, pile of uprights ready for tacking into place so the top of the tub can be put in place...
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Uprights tacked in place, top of the tub being tacked onto them. Regina came out to get some actions shots...
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Finishing up the welds with the tub ~90% done.

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I got the "Lock-N-Roll" hitch and coupler in the mail on Sat so I need to make another trip down to see Shep @ Fabco for 60" of 2X2 square tube for the tongue. Then I can finish that up and get ready to section the top to fit the tub. I've already got the glass/epoxy/top coat to put it back together once I cut out the 15 or so inches. Then, its got to wait until I get back from a professional conference in San Antonio. Upon my return, I'll only have about 10 days to finish it once I get back. Nothing like putting pressure on myself...
 
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Jerry, looke to be coming together exactly like we were talking about, Cap looks like it's going to fit very nicely. Bends came out very nicely. Keep up the good work, it'll be finished up in no time.
 
Damn Jerry I wish I had your skills and your tools :grinpimp:


and maybe all three of your cruisers :idea:
 
Jerry, looke to be coming together exactly like we were talking about, Cap looks like it's going to fit very nicely. Bends came out very nicely. Keep up the good work, it'll be finished up in no time.

Thanks Greg. I think I've got most everything ordered to complete. All but those elusive "barn doors"...

Damn Jerry I wish I had your skills and your tools :grinpimp:


and maybe all three of your cruisers :idea:

If you only knew the truth Al. My wife and kids can tell you how easily things go sometimes in the garage. They rate the jobs by how many "F-bombs" are dropped, not in the whole project, buy how many in a single sentence describing the task...
 
Damn Jerry, that is nice! The tub looks quite deep - with suspension and tires, how high will the top be?
 
Damn Jerry, that is nice! The tub looks quite deep - with suspension and tires, how high will the top be?

Yeah Joe, that was the issue I struggled with. I wanted to build a "slide" for the ARB fridge/freezer and its 21" tall. I also be able to fit any jerry cans inside w/plenty of room. Don't know for sure what the exact height will be until the axle/springs show up next week. I reviewed the specs from the commercial trailers and they ranged from 19" to 30", I made mine 24".

I'm hoping the 25g water tank will help counter-balance the weight of the RTT on top. It will also be much wider than it looks with the tub alone. The hub face-hub face is 60", 2" inside the same of the FJC...
 
Jerry, not to throw a kink in it but what are your intentions on titleing/registering the trailer, just thought about this since you are now building from scratch.
 
Jerry, not to throw a kink in it but what are your intentions on titleing/registering the trailer, just thought about this since you are now building from scratch.

Been thinking about that for sure. From what I've gathered, it needs to be inspected by a police officer (State) and have everything in running order. That is why one of the first orders of business will be getting the wheels on it and wired. I can get it inspected then while I'm working on the details to finish it up.

At least that's the plan as I sit here now. It will probably be a good idea to give the number on the NCDMV website a call tomorrow before I have to go out of town...
 
Sounds/looks great Jerry. Can't wait to see the finished product!
 
Sounds/looks great Jerry. Can't wait to see the finished product!

Thanks Alan, today I cut the top...

If you need help with the title/registration let me know. My dad builds trailers and has a stack of certificate of Origins and he does dozens of them a year.

I'll have to take you up on that. I send you a PM with contact info to see if you can save me some work, thanks...

WOW, is about all I can manage. Great job and lot of work already done.

Thanks, but I've got a way to go before its done...
 
Lookin' real nice Jerry. That thing's gonna' be cool man.

:beer: R
 
Lookin' real nice Jerry. That thing's gonna' be cool man.

:beer: R

Thanks Ramon. I'm going to visit our buddy Shep to pick up the square stock for the tongue, then its time to cut that nice top you had. And, don't worry about the doors. It may be something I'll add if I can find some cheap. I found a set in CA for $75 but it would probably double the cost just to have them shipped out.

The tailgate makes more sense, just thought it might help kep the 40 theme with a set of barn doors...
 
Hey Jerry, my point was that I am in NO HURRY to use those doors, so if you want to take them with the idea to replace them sometime (within say the next couple years), you can just take them. They are in pretty rough shape as far as rust goes though.

Nice job on the bends man!

:beer: R
 
Today's update didn't amount to much but was the most stressful. I picked the 40 fiberglass top up from Ramon and its not like I can just go out and pick up another if I screw things up. So, I measured twice, cut half as much as I thought, measured again, cut again and kept shaving it down about 1/4" at a time. It took way too long to get it to fit right but, again, I didn't want to screw this part up.

Here are a couple pics of the sectioned FJ40 fiberglass top which will become the lid for my trailer project...
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Now the project goes dormant until I return from San Antonio on Sunday...
 
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This is turning out great. I've been looking for a project that I could bust out my welder and I think this may be just the thing. I was going to build an actual car trailer but I don't have the room in my shop.

Great job..I am really liking the tube design.

Have you designed your gas shocks/hinges for the top yet? How about a locking mechanism for the top.
 
Very nice Jerry, coming along at a rapid pace. What did you decide to do as far as sheeting it, inside or outside, I still say inside. Also make sure you leave enough room on the rain gutter and tube mounting surface for the gutter mount lips.
 
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