Hidden Winch Mount from ASFIR
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This looks like an over-complicated solution. Toyota factory fitted winches are placed between the framerails on a simple L bracket. There is plenty of space to fit something much bigger, I've mounted a 12000 LB version whch is fully concealed behind the standard bumper with the fairlead sitting behind the license plate.
Only concession is somewhat cumbersome access to the disengage lever (through the hood).
I consider the winch a last resort so haven't even bothered with a flip-up licenseplate holder. If I need it I'll take the two screws out.
Only concession is somewhat cumbersome access to the disengage lever (through the hood).
I consider the winch a last resort so haven't even bothered with a flip-up licenseplate holder. If I need it I'll take the two screws out.
Do you know the best mount plate for a hidden mount on the 100 series?
Old thread...
I tried to fit one of these that is linked above (Asfir SKU 558021). It did not fit as the frame mounts were different. However, it is a beefy unit and I may try to retrofit.
*EDIT: you must remove the end caps on the frame (4 bolts per side) and then it will line up to the frame rails.
I tried to fit one of these that is linked above (Asfir SKU 558021). It did not fit as the frame mounts were different. However, it is a beefy unit and I may try to retrofit.
*EDIT: you must remove the end caps on the frame (4 bolts per side) and then it will line up to the frame rails.
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Reviving this thread! RTaylor, did you ever get this to work on the 2014 200 series? Anyone?
Negative. I think there’s been a more recent discussion on this topic that you can search for.
*EDIT: you must remove the end caps on the frame (4 bolts per side) and then it will line up to the frame rails.
*EDIT: you must remove the end caps on the frame (4 bolts per side) and then it will line up to the frame rails.
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They will work on a '14. Unit is very stout and if you check their web page they list winches that will fit.
Thanks all! I have ordered one and will post up after the install. Could be spring 2018 before I get it all together. It also looks like Carl at JustDifferentials is running this on his 200 series.
Lrowe_csp - did you install yet? Curious, if you did, how it went. I’ve exchanged a couple of emails with ASFIR for my 2016 and here’s what they said:
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We have not assembled the hidden winch mount on a 2016 Land Cruiser and as such cannot confirm 100% if it will fit.
However our technical people advise me that there probably will not be any problem.”
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We have not assembled the hidden winch mount on a 2016 Land Cruiser and as such cannot confirm 100% if it will fit.
However our technical people advise me that there probably will not be any problem.”
I did install the ASFIR in a 2014 (or more accurately, my friends down at Forge Specialties did the install). It fits under the bumper fascia very well, and other than seeing the fairlead and factor 55 shackle on the outside of the bumper (we cut a small hole in the fascia for this), you would not know there is a winch installed. I took photos last weekend of the landcruiser and hope to organize them and post up this weekend.
Awesome!! That’s great news. Would love some photos if you have some time. Thanks!
Does yours have the fairlead as low as in the pictures above?
Videos on youtube of 200s with what seem to be factory winches have the fairlead higher, in line with the airflow slot in the stock bumper cover.
Fairlead is low. Nathan at Forge Specialties mounted the license plate high to be able to see the rope wrap on the winch. I have ordered a Gobi Flip Down License Plate bracket so I can mount the License a couple of inches lower and will be able to flip up the plate to view the wrap. Let me know if you have trouble viewing the photos.
It looks great! Thanks for the photos. Gonna order for my 2016.
For those who have completed the asfir 558021 hidden winch mount install, how did you manage to integrate the oem skid plate mounts with the rear of the winch mount? It seems like I would need to cut the top/front-most portion of the skid plate mount so that the winch mount will reach the frame rail.
Thanks.
PS- I edited my prior responses about the fitment on the frame rails.
Thanks.
PS- I edited my prior responses about the fitment on the frame rails.
I have the ARB skids from the previous owner installed, so I am not sure how the oem skid would integrate. ARB skid fit okay.
I mounted my Asfir hidden winch mount and installed an Engo 10k winch. I thought I would share my experience in hopes of offering guidance to others who are considering this.
Short version: it works if you're willing to trim the stock skid plates and get creative with the bumper cover.
First, I bought the mount several years ago from a 4x4 shop that went out of business. I think they were a US Asfir distributor and they had this mount listed on their facebook clearance section. I paid around $200 shipped for it and considered it worth the risk. At the time, I wasn't sure if it would fit. I gave it a quick try, but it sat in my basement with a carryover winch for a few years.
There are no installation directions so I followed various ARB and TJM instructions to figure out the removal of the stock bumper. The installation of the winch mount was fairly self explanatory from there. The mount bolts to the frame rails with 4 bolts on each side after you remove the end caps. There are separate Asfir brackets on the ends that offer additional bracing. This part was fairly simple.
The stock skid plates would not bolt back up to the front mounts. The Asfir mount had holes for the skids, but they didn't align and not even close. The contour/slope of the rear of the winch mount didn't follow the stock configuration. I racked my brain for a few hours and days, ultimately deciding to cut a few inches off the front of the skid plates all the way across the front. It's not pretty, but I didn't see a better option. The front of the skids are chopped off at the center mount of the crossmember.
I rotated the clutch and bolted the winch to the mount. I used longer wires for the box so I could move it up behind the grill, mounted to a piece of metal.
Cutting holes for the fairlead was fairly simple with some careful measuring and eye-balling. A second set of hands and eyes were a big help.
Getting the bumper cover back on was another curveball. Again, the contour of the lower mount didn't follow the bumper cover. There was contact on the front of the mount and it caused the lower center section of the bumper cover to bulge and deform. It didn't look great and it also caused several of the bolts to not be aligned (bumper cover and splash guards). After I got all of the bolts back in that I could, I used my floor jack and a 2x4 to bend the bumper cover into a more appropriate shape. I left it overnight a couple of times and I used zip ties to hold some of the spots. You can't tell unless you crawl under.
Finally, I trimmed holes in the engine cover (name?) so I could reach my arm down to the clutch and control box.
I wonder if my mount is an older version, or a non-US spec, or something else. I'm happy to trade a few zip ties for a winch, but it's not ideal.
Good luck to the others.
Short version: it works if you're willing to trim the stock skid plates and get creative with the bumper cover.
First, I bought the mount several years ago from a 4x4 shop that went out of business. I think they were a US Asfir distributor and they had this mount listed on their facebook clearance section. I paid around $200 shipped for it and considered it worth the risk. At the time, I wasn't sure if it would fit. I gave it a quick try, but it sat in my basement with a carryover winch for a few years.
There are no installation directions so I followed various ARB and TJM instructions to figure out the removal of the stock bumper. The installation of the winch mount was fairly self explanatory from there. The mount bolts to the frame rails with 4 bolts on each side after you remove the end caps. There are separate Asfir brackets on the ends that offer additional bracing. This part was fairly simple.
The stock skid plates would not bolt back up to the front mounts. The Asfir mount had holes for the skids, but they didn't align and not even close. The contour/slope of the rear of the winch mount didn't follow the stock configuration. I racked my brain for a few hours and days, ultimately deciding to cut a few inches off the front of the skid plates all the way across the front. It's not pretty, but I didn't see a better option. The front of the skids are chopped off at the center mount of the crossmember.
I rotated the clutch and bolted the winch to the mount. I used longer wires for the box so I could move it up behind the grill, mounted to a piece of metal.
Cutting holes for the fairlead was fairly simple with some careful measuring and eye-balling. A second set of hands and eyes were a big help.
Getting the bumper cover back on was another curveball. Again, the contour of the lower mount didn't follow the bumper cover. There was contact on the front of the mount and it caused the lower center section of the bumper cover to bulge and deform. It didn't look great and it also caused several of the bolts to not be aligned (bumper cover and splash guards). After I got all of the bolts back in that I could, I used my floor jack and a 2x4 to bend the bumper cover into a more appropriate shape. I left it overnight a couple of times and I used zip ties to hold some of the spots. You can't tell unless you crawl under.
Finally, I trimmed holes in the engine cover (name?) so I could reach my arm down to the clutch and control box.
I wonder if my mount is an older version, or a non-US spec, or something else. I'm happy to trade a few zip ties for a winch, but it's not ideal.
Good luck to the others.