Thanks @tgreco . As best I can tell everyone is still in except Andy, unfortunately he can't get the time off work an gets the short end. My business partner is supposed to be on vacation next week so that might throw a monkey wrench in my arrival day. We'll see. Glad to hear you were able to work out Thursday camping arrangements with the park, like I told you I received a "no problem" one day and the next was told "not open on Thursday". Anyway, I anticipated arrival around 4:00 CST for our group, perhaps earlier for Roger and Rocky but they can speak for themselves since they are considerably closer than we are.