FJ62 auto to man trans swap

[Landpimp]

correction, dealer cost is $1500, so $40 over cost is a great deal

below cost is more like it. retail is 2200, cost is $1600ish, if yo ucan get em for $1500 buy a lot of em.

 

[sanjuancruiser]

SO all I need to get the H55F onto the FJ-62 (3F-E) are the parts off of a FJ-60? I know the crossmember is different but to attach tranny to my motor and to my T-case the parts come off of a FJ-60? I was under the impression it was harder than that. So all I need to do is find a parts FJ-60 and an H55F, and I will have most of the parts I will need? I like the sound of that.

Andrew

All the parts seem to bolt right up. Now you would have to locate the right t-case for the tranny but that shouldn't be to hard. you might be able to use a 10/85 or newer crossmember off a 60 since the tranny cases are the same.

 

[Aseif007]

All the parts seem to bolt right up. Now you would have to locate the right t-case for the tranny but that shouldn't be to hard. you might be able to use a 10/85 or newer crossmember off a 60 since the tranny cases are the same.

So an FJ-60 would have everything I needed? I ask becuse I am planning on buying a parts FJ-60 taking the parts I need for the FJ-62 then parting out the rest. I guess I am asking that if I do this will I have the right parts for the switch?

My 88' FJ-62 transfer case will not bolt up to an H55F?

Thanks for the info, the more I find out the more I want to do this.

Andrew

 

[Man Jerk]

So an FJ-60 would have everything I needed? I ask becuse I am planning on buying a parts FJ-60 taking the parts I need for the FJ-62 then parting out the rest. I guess I am asking that if I do this will I have the right parts for the switch?

My 88' FJ-62 transfer case will not bolt up to an H55F?

Thanks for the info, the more I find out the more I want to do this.

Andrew

That is certainly the best way to do it. Then you will have everything you need. The later 2F bellhousing is actually stamped 3F. So the tranny will bolt right up to the bellhousing which will in turn bolt right up to the motor.

Someone makes a slick aftermarket crossmember which mounts between the frame rails instead of below them.

Ahh here it is http://www.upnover.com/product.aspx?sid=1ryanm45uwfs2q45di3tjh55&id=03012

I don't remember it being all that hard. I helped someone tackle this, and I never did get to see the finished product.

 

[Aseif007]

Thanks majanrk and everyone else for your good info. I need to know this stuff so I can start to accumulate parts. ( and try and figure out a budget ) I didn't know that the later FJ-60s had a 3F bellhousing. Sure glad you guys are around and willing to pass on the knowledge. I will try and keep a picture log when doing anything so I could document the swap.

Do I need to replace the stock 88' FJ-62 transfer case? or Will the 88 FJ-62 transfer case bolt up to the H55F?

Andrew

 

[Man Jerk]

I don't think so. Either the mounting flange or the output shaft is different between the auto and manual.

I think the biggest pita is the pedal assembly. There is a panel which includes the mounting for the pedals, which also runs up and into the steering column. The right way to do it is to rip it all out. The guy I was helping decided against that and was going to try to have someone weld in a bracket for the clutch. The panels are the same except the clutch mount is not there on the 62 (duh!) The panel from the 60 also includes the mount for the clutch master cylinder. You will have to drill a hole through the firewall. Other than that you got to run plumbing for the clutch.

It's not hard, just time consuming.

 

[sanjuancruiser]

Thanks majanrk and everyone else for your good info. I need to know this stuff so I can start to accumulate parts. ( and try and figure out a budget ) I didn't know that the later FJ-60s had a 3F bellhousing. Sure glad you guys are around and willing to pass on the knowledge. I will try and keep a picture log when doing anything so I could document the swap.

Do I need to replace the stock 88' FJ-62 transfer case? or Will the 88 FJ-62 transfer case bolt up to the H55F?

Andrew

The t-case is different on a 62 and won't bolt to the h55. you'll need a 10/85-87 t-case as the tranny is the same as a five spd w/o the o/d. I think the tranny o/p shafts are the same.
You can also use 80 and newer bell housing. ideally find a 10/85 or newer donor-it'll have what you need w/o having to do any extra bone yarding.

 

[Landpimp]

I dunno I thought the 62 case was the same as the 60 case exept for the vacuume shift parts. I was told it bolts up to the H55F and I am almost postive non US 60-2 came with a H55F and a vacuume shift t-case.

The t-case is different on a 62 and won't bolt to the h55. you'll need a 10/85-87 t-case as the tranny is the same as a five spd w/o the o/d. I think the tranny o/p shafts are the same.
You can also use 80 and newer bell housing. ideally find a 10/85 or newer donor-it'll have what you need w/o having to do any extra bone yarding.

 

[Landpimp]

this is from David Dunbar who did the H55F swap into a 62,

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Yes, you can use the stock Tcase from the FJ62. You will need some
longer bolts because of the tranny adaptor and I have the part no.s
in my garage. Ha Ha Ha, and there they will stay until someone from
the list comes to deal with my children in diapers so I can go out
there and hunt the numbers. They are needed for my writeup for the
TT article too.

If someone is seriously looking at the swap I will send related info
to them asap. Let me know.

Dunbar

 

[sanjuancruiser]

My mistake I wasn't aware that they would swap.

 

[alkaline747trio]

Sorry to ressurect, but is/was there ever a write up about how exactly to do this? Found a nice and cheap 62, but crave the feel and control of a manual. It all seems fairly easy, but this thread is fairly unclear on exactly what to do.

 

[Man Jerk]

Seems to me that everything is there.

What are you unclear about?

 

[alkaline747trio]

Just skimming through I didn't see any information on what exactly was needed..but now that I read more in-depth, I see that it is pretty much take out the 62 transmission gear and pedal mount and master cylinder, and replace it with the parts from the 60 and plumb up the clutch. If I am wrong or missing something there, please fill me in.

 

[Man Jerk]

This is from memory, so I might miss something

Transmission and transfer case
Flywheel
slave cylinder
master cylinder
master to slave lines
clutch fork / throw out bearing
clutch pedal.
driveshafts
transmission crossmember

The piece that the clutch pedal mounts to. It runs up the fire wall, then up and into the bottom of the steering column. That's the best I can describe it. The panel that is in there has one of the clutch pedal mounts. You could in theory weld in another bracket for the other side of the pedal.

 

[alkaline747trio]

Would it be better to just take the pedal assembly from the 60? Or do I absolutly have to do som custom fab'n to get a clutch pedal? And where exactly am I going to be cutting and welding, and what am I cutting and welding for/to?

 

[Man Jerk]

There is some kind of panel, that runs up the firewall, then curves and comes up the front of the steering column. If you go out and look at your 62 you will see what I am talking about. You can find 1 mounting bracket on this panel. The 2nd one is not there.

It would be a pain in the ass, but you could swap it out. If I were to do it again, yes I would take the time and swap it out. This was not my truck, and I never did see the finished product. He sold it soon after he had it done.

 

[Mike S]

Stevens Creek Toyota honors the LCA discount. They are really good to work with, if you are nearby give them a shot.

Otherwise, call C-Dan.

Stevens Creek Toyota in Santa Clara California has them for that price. I called and asked for the list price and it was $2288, then asked for the TLCA price and it was $1560.60 for part# 33030-60450. They don;t like giving people the TLCA price over the phone unless they know who you are, they have had many people calling in trying to use other people's names to get thier discout ( I am one of those people who has been impersonated there before, but this person was trying to return parts as well as buy them, but they know who I am so it didn;t work ) also they probably don't like loosing their mark-up on parts either. Another thing about SC Toyota is they don;t take phone orders, at least for people they don;t know, and I don;t think they ship, bit I live 5 minutes away. Andrew

Mike S

 

[alkaline747trio]

So wait, if it is a pain in the arse to swap it out, what is the other option...can't get a hands on right now, it's in the shop getting the SOA done as we all type.

 

[sanjuancruiser]

I swapped the piece out of a donar 60. The piece is spot welded and it just needs to be drilled out. then bolted or welded into the 62. PITA but really the only pain on the whole conversion. I would do this again as fabbing one would probably take more time.


The only thing that I wish I had done different is getting the factory crossmember as I fabbed one -talkabout a PITA.

 

[alkaline747trio]

Factory crossmenber from a 60, right? Right now I think I've found the donor for all these parts...total of $1100 for this conversion before selling the auto stuff...think it's worth it?