def not your typical desert pin-strip. This is not Rubithon but it is TTORA's Rubicon trail event
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Cruiserdrew
On the way there
That truck was purchased about 15 miles from me. I wonder if the guy is local and who he is. Definitely a shame about the FJC!
I heard he blew his rear diff. Anyone know what happened there? If so, it's the 4th diff I've heard of in FJCs needing to be replaced. Is there an issue with the rear diffs?
Anyway, if anyone has the full info, please post up.
I heard he blew his rear diff. Anyone know what happened there? If so, it's the 4th diff I've heard of in FJCs needing to be replaced. Is there an issue with the rear diffs?
Anyway, if anyone has the full info, please post up.
It seems both the yellow and Toyota's black FJC at the TTORA event blew their rear diffs.
I had heard of this happening to the new Tacomas as well. It seems the factory locked 3rd is weak in some way resulting in grenading teeth.
I don't know if it's due to manufacturing problems or an inherent weakness in the 8" diff... I hope someone can add more about this issue.
I had heard of this happening to the new Tacomas as well. It seems the factory locked 3rd is weak in some way resulting in grenading teeth.
I don't know if it's due to manufacturing problems or an inherent weakness in the 8" diff... I hope someone can add more about this issue.
Cruiserdrew
On the way there
FirstToy said:
Interesting, in that past generations of minis and Tacos don't have a major problem with this. Especially since these FJCs don't have serious gear reduction.
James-Do the new generation of 4 Runners have any problems with this? I think it's the same differential.
4Runners have the same 8" rear (except open, no rr lock option) and no problems that I have heard of. (It is the same open 8" as older Toy trucks b/c they use the same ARB RD23 rr locker.)
I *think* this problem is limited to factory locked rr diffs. Some Tacos have exploded the diff just from driving on the street... not sure what's going on w/ it.
6sp M FJC
3.9 rr diff
41.8 crawl ratio
1st 4.1
5sp A FJC
3.7 rr diff
33.6 crawl
1st gear 3.5
notably, only the 6sp M has
-Torsen center diff (from the 4Runner) one of the most advanced center diffs avail
- permanent fulltime 4wd
FJC has the V8 4R's 8" front diff, t-case and 5sp Auto. (same 5spd auto in the LC/LX/GX/Prado).
Auto FJC- it has ADD and not sure if it uses the V6 4R's front diff/axle assembly for that-which is a smaller diff (7.5) (I think.. not sure on that.)
I *think* this problem is limited to factory locked rr diffs. Some Tacos have exploded the diff just from driving on the street... not sure what's going on w/ it.
6sp M FJC
3.9 rr diff
41.8 crawl ratio
1st 4.1
5sp A FJC
3.7 rr diff
33.6 crawl
1st gear 3.5
notably, only the 6sp M has
-Torsen center diff (from the 4Runner) one of the most advanced center diffs avail
- permanent fulltime 4wd
FJC has the V8 4R's 8" front diff, t-case and 5sp Auto. (same 5spd auto in the LC/LX/GX/Prado).
Auto FJC- it has ADD and not sure if it uses the V6 4R's front diff/axle assembly for that-which is a smaller diff (7.5) (I think.. not sure on that.)
Look on Pirate there is a post and link about this FJ.
k_os said:def not your typical desert pin-strip. This is not Rubithon but it is TTORA's Rubicon trail event
Sa-Wheat. I can respect a truck willing to be used this way. Kudo's to this dude for proving me wrong about the fj.
Behemoth60 said:
Not me.....
I think it show's the person didn't know what they were doing. There were pictures of this FJ all over this forum when it was getting all "pimped" out for off road use at a local shop.
Then the guy takes it out and does this????
I might be wrong but sounds more like just a n00b that got ahold of it.
pismojim
the Dude abides...
That was my first thought too.Behemoth60 said:
I'm curious about the primary "pinstripe". I've picked up my share of scrapes and dents but it's hard to imagine how that one happened. I would have thought once the door was tagged the driver would stop and re-group. Maybe pull out the hi-lift or toss a couple rocks under the tires, but no, it looks like he just kept his foot on the gas turning a nice dent into a long scrape. That couldn't have been easy, I've heard that sound and felt that soft crunch of body panels. Then as the second door is damaged he STILL kept going right into the rear panel. Now that's hardcore.
I've never seen anything like it. No wait, it does remind me of watching Behemoth60 spool up the diesel while laying on its side at Hell's Gate in Moab.
Drive out of it baby!
pismojim
the Dude abides...
I forgot to mention, it doesn't look that bad to me. The door still works and seals and the glass is intact. Hopefully, he pulled the taillight before he started. It looks like he can still enjoy a quiet, air conditioned, ride home. A little cosmetic damage, no reason to worry about fixing it.
QUOTE=Imola Red]I think it show's the person didn't know what they were doing. There were pictures of this FJ all over this forum when it was getting all "pimped" out for off road use at a local shop.
Then the guy takes it out and does this????
I might be wrong but sounds more like just a n00b that got ahold of it.[/QUOTE]
I guess the guy's intentions are what makes the difference. If he didn't realize that his door was into a rock, and cried all the way home and is now filling out the paperwork for his insurance claim, then I guess it is a crying shame. If the dood didn't want to put his soda in the cup holder and shift into reverse to get the body off the rock and instead thought to himself 'This is the excuse I need to build half doors' and put the hammer down to get through the obstacle then he's definately earned my respect.
And I did drive out of it quite succesfully to, if memory serves. And who can forget the 'galloping elephant' doing a full power traverse of double whammy. Ah, those were the days.
Wheeling in the mud and hills of the Eastern Slopes of the Rockies is very different than rock crawling. "Second gear and pin it" is probably the most common advice told to beginners in our club. Other favourite sayings include the painfully practicle and somewhat confusing 'as slow as possible, but as fast as necessary', 'If I'm going down, I'm going down spinning', and my personal mantra is 'When in doubt, power out'. Alas, such sage advice in inexplicably innapropriate in the rocks.
I highly recommend that everyone try a little bit of both to round out their wheeling experiences.
Then the guy takes it out and does this????
I might be wrong but sounds more like just a n00b that got ahold of it.[/QUOTE]
I guess the guy's intentions are what makes the difference. If he didn't realize that his door was into a rock, and cried all the way home and is now filling out the paperwork for his insurance claim, then I guess it is a crying shame. If the dood didn't want to put his soda in the cup holder and shift into reverse to get the body off the rock and instead thought to himself 'This is the excuse I need to build half doors' and put the hammer down to get through the obstacle then he's definately earned my respect.
pismojim said:I've never seen anything like it. No wait, it does remind me of watching Behemoth60 spool up the diesel while laying on its side at Hell's Gate in Moab.
Drive out of it baby!
And I did drive out of it quite succesfully to, if memory serves. And who can forget the 'galloping elephant' doing a full power traverse of double whammy. Ah, those were the days.
Wheeling in the mud and hills of the Eastern Slopes of the Rockies is very different than rock crawling. "Second gear and pin it" is probably the most common advice told to beginners in our club. Other favourite sayings include the painfully practicle and somewhat confusing 'as slow as possible, but as fast as necessary', 'If I'm going down, I'm going down spinning', and my personal mantra is 'When in doubt, power out'. Alas, such sage advice in inexplicably innapropriate in the rocks.
I highly recommend that everyone try a little bit of both to round out their wheeling experiences.
