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My wife and I are considering taking a course to get our firearms license. Neither of us are necessarily gun people but my wife's fear of grizzly bears is driving the decision. Funny thing is we have never seen a live grizzly. Any suggestions as to where to take the course. We are in Ladner.
 
I have a feeling my wife will enjoy the firearms. Photos from 2002 of her first shot with a .22 from approximately 100 feet. One shot through the eye.
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Bear Spray is very effective shoots 10 meters - less expensive than firearms and without any risk.
According to this article 680 Americans are killed accidentally with guns each year between 2003 and 2007. I am sure these statistics beat deaths by bear attacks.
Half those victims were under the age of 25. Children aged 5 to 14 in the United States are 11 times more likely to die from an accidental gunshot wound than children in other developed countries. Nonfatal gun injuries occur at the average rate of 20 a day in the US. I remember Vice President Cheney shot his buddy on a hunting trip in 2006 - but we don't know what that was about LoL.
https://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/2012/12/health-risk-having-gun-home
 
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I went to Silvercore. It seemed fine to me and they do a combined non-restricted and restricted.
 
In most cases I would not be that concerned about bears, I've seen more of them in PoCo than I have while out on trips. Occasionally you get a few curious ones but in most cases they don't want anything to do with us (there are always exceptions). If you have kids around I'd be more concerned about cougars. I've had my PAL for a while, never had a close encounter with a bear, I've had one close call with a cougar. In reality if an animal attacks you while you are camping, unless you have a fire arm close by (within arms' reach), loaded and ready to shoot, you are not going to accomplish much. And you are legally not allow to do that, so the purpose of getting a fire arm for protection while camping is defeated. Now you can have a fire arm loaded and close by you all the time, being paranoid at every little sound, but if a CO comes around you can be fined or lose your license.
If you are hiking out in the wilderness, quiet and without trucks, people talking, music, then the risk of encountering an animal is greater. In most cases when vehicle travel is involved, unless it is in areas where the bears know they can get fresh food/garbage, they stay away from us. If you're going to get the license do it because you want to, not under the pretext of fear and as protection, because it will not really help you.
Just my $0.5
 
Me: Silvercore can teach you about firearms, their safe and legal ownership, use, storage and transport.

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Silvercore is pretty good, closest to you I'd say I did my PAL restricted/ unrestricted at silvercore there is also the firearms training center in cloverdale they were very good I took my hunting licence there.

There is times near hunting season where we have had trouble with lets call them habituated or nucence animals have come into camp at night or staked out a tree right in camp that have had to be removed but you will not hear any of these stories cause this is a no no according to COs. So personally I wouldn't bother expecting to deal with an attacking animal per say but we have had to use weapons when we have seen an animal as a threat. I'm with glenn while hiking things like the west coast etc. I much prefer bear spray and bangers over firearms. last thing I'd want done is someone firing upon an animal that is in very close to my person and I would personally not be willing to possibly kill some one in an attempt to get an animal off. Even when hunting I have bear bangers on myself for bears. Bear spray works like a hot damn on moose too.
 
Regarding actually shooting an attacking animal I understand the chances are very slim to none. It is more for her confidence of being 'safe'. And Matt, you are correct. She has an even healthier fear of our kids being dragged away by a cougar. It's actually quite funny hiking with her and the kids. Easy teasing.

I have always carried bear spray with me but according to many of my friends who hunt it won't do much especially when windy. Brad probably has a good solution by carrying the bear bangers. But then again, if it's your time to go the bears gonna get ya.
 
You have a greater chance of drowning or getting hurt by falls or dying of exposure in the bush than being attacked by a bear.
The risk is totally overblown - bear bangers and spray is all you need. Look at the mountain fatality rate on the North Shore mountains - usually exposure or falls ...not bears
 
You have a greater chance of drowning or getting hurt by falls or dying of exposure in the bush than being attacked by a bear.
The risk is totally overblown - bear bangers and spray is all you need. Look at the mountain fatality rate on the North Shore mountains - usually exposure or falls ...not bears

I agree. Doesn't help the wife's fear. I told her I only need a knife and some confidence.

 
vanny go ahead and get it done. its a whole other culture even if you never use anything for self defence. to me firearms are just another mechanical toy and under the wrong hands kill just as good as a truck or baseball bat.

i dont have any experience with silvercore but i do also reccomend them as the bigger outfits give you a better feel or show. the shopping and learing new things is also allot of fun.
 
Glen, my wife has an irrational fear of spiders, do you have some stats to share about them being harmless before she goes and does something drastic and causes it to rain :flipoff2:? The man asked for advice on where to take some training. Training that should teach them skills to keep his family entirely safe with respect to storage and handling. More importantly his wife supports them spending the extra time and money for owning a larger 'bear banger', why judge?

Tmax, I also have not taken the course with silvercore but my wife did. I took my course as an elective credit for the renewable resources curriculum at BCIT. You can track down smaller one off classes for the PAL or CORE, but a regularly offered class seems more straightforward and probably has other advantages as you say. Out here they advertise PAL and CORE classes through the local leisure guide right alongside all the other outdoors classes like boating card, mushroom id and kids camps, maybe that isn't the case in Ladner.
 
I am not judging... I am telling people about the probabilities of injury and death in the bush - guns have little to do with those probabilities- people chose to carry guns for whatever reason they chose?? I am simply saying not to justify that decisions on faulty information and also raise the unpopular statistic that gun accidents by licensed gun owners (not criminals) in the US kill way way more people than bears (680 /yr) .

The point you raise about spiders is interesting - and it may come as a surprise your wife is completely rational about her fear of spiders.
In fact the probability of serious spider bites (and snake bites) are much higher risk than bears. My dog was bitten 2 weeks by a Brown Reclusive spider in Kelowna and nearly died ($800 in vet bills). The Brown Reclusive spider injects an necrotizing venom causing the surrounding tissue to die and can cause a severe type of bacterial infection (flesh-eating bacteria).. It can destroy the muscles, skin, and underlying tissue.. My next door neighbor was bitten by the brown reclusive spider and they had to surgically remove the dead and inflect flesh from leg. He was left with a big scar.

Here are some probabilities of dying from by the US National Safety Council. The odds of dying from all possible cause is 1:1, cause we all die eventually. I would add spiders to Insect list..
Note also firearm discharge' is way up there (not the same as 'assault with firearm') .Does not look like 'bears' made the short list.

Those are facts, which may not sit well with common perception.

Heart Disease and Cancer 1:7
Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease 1:28
Intentional Self-harm 1:100
Unintentional Poisoning By and Exposure to Noxious Substances 1:112
Motor Vehicle Crash 1:109
Fall 1:144
Assault by Firearm 1:358
Pedestrian Incident 1:704
Motorcycle Rider Incident 1:911
Unintentional Drowning and Submersion 1:1,113
Exposure to Fire, Flames or Smoke 1:1,442
Choking from Inhalation and Ingestion of Food 1:3,375
Pedacyclist Incident 1:4,535
Firearms Discharge 1:6,699
Exposure to Excessive Natural Heat 1:6,745
Cataclysmic Storm 1:6,780
Air and Space Transport Incidents 1:8,015
Exposure to Electric Current, Radiation, Temperature and Pressure 1:12,220
Contact with Sharp Objects 1:37,351
Contact with Hornets, Wasps and Bees (spiders) 1:55,764
Contact with Heat and Hot Substances 1:59,093
Legal Execution 1:127,717
Being Bitten or Struck by a Dog 1:116,448
Lightning Strike 1:164,968

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001443.htm
 
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