Finally found the 45 I can afford and is built pretty much the way I want it

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the LC is pretty cool. i would rock one but its very fair to say you are comparing apples to oranges.

i have not priced a new unit but $250 is not much for what you get and that may just be the basic cost for a cab an chassy.

i am not sure if the axles on the bigger UHN was upgraded or not. the 4000 got new axles but the 5000 may still be just a refined original that was interduced in 1975. so i dont know what ratios are available. when ordering your new mog, you can get it with what ever gearing you like instead of the standard ratio. in Europe, commercial vehicles over a certain gvw are only allowed to do 80km/h. thats why anytime you buy a unimog that was ment to drive there is geard so low. the north american UGN models were set up to do 70 miles per hour.

i acatually very much dislike the new units. the unimog factory pretty much got shut down in the early 2000's. all unimogs are made in a production line with the trucks now and the option list has shrunk by quite a bit. there is also endless electronics and emmisions that are just a pain all around. otherwise, the brand new unimog is no more capable than the original quare cab one from the late 70's. in fact its pretty much the same identical chassy.

my work mog that i'm working on lookes like the same as the one in the vid but with a different grill. full GVW of 14000 kg with a palfinger crane and tipping box. the final gearing is 6.3 to 1 so with 53 inch tires it will do ok highway speed. on the other hand my play mog has supper fast axle ratio at 4.85 to 1 and can reach about 120 km/h depending on the tire size but will cruise very nice at 90.
 
Tmax said:
perhaps you missundrestood my comment.

what i ment is that the rig is built right from the factory and not moddified to suite later needs. ie, lifts, tires, gearing and such.
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Yes, and like Glenn posted, it's $250,000 new from the factory. I agree, it is a comparison of apples to oranges. It's pointless to be comparing these types of vehicles together. They were all designed with different purposes and as such have different factory options and are priced accordingly. Most of us don't have that kind of money. What we do have is the ability to buy a vehicle that was designed well at the factory and make it better by buying or making aftermarket parts for it to suit our needs. Therefore, built not bought is the approach most take. After all, you are doing the same thing otherwise you would have just bought it from the factory and been driving it ages ago, are you not? Yes you might be doing it with factory options (and likely some aftermarket ones) that you are buying from different sources, but you are still building it yourself to meet your needs.
It all really becomes a bit pointless as they all are meant for different things and shouldn't be compared. Do I like the heavy duty, military trucks (or their more consumer intended variations)? hell yes. Would it be great to own one to go play and push it to its limits, of course. But I do what I can with the budget I have to meet my needs.
 
couldnt agree more. at the end of the day we are all beggers rather than choosers in some level. however the debate started out as a 404 is a pos in my view and there is a right mog for every job as not all of them are equal. long time ago realy i gave up on educating people on unimogs. sadly these days we have allot of internet warriors that with a couple of google searches and repeating what some other fool said on another board think they are experts becuase they have researched it. :clap:generally, true hands on experience is not as valuable anymore.


mat you always mention unimogs so i simply tried to tell you what you need to know. there are more mog models than lancurisers and they are all built for a specific use. i used to live and breath unimogs on personal and proffecional level to the point of getting truly sick of them so feel free to debate or just ask questions. be glad to clear up many myths that are out there.


edit: yes i will be getting aftermarket cup holders or make my own custom ones.
 
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Those R/C models are amazing.

What are your thoughts on this full-size one?

http://abbotsford.craigslist.ca/cto/4721131182.html

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That's been for sale for a while. Looks pretty but not what I'm looking for and not in the price range I want. I don't want a gas engine and am not about to pay a lot of money for something I'll pull out and get rid of. Same goes for the bed. Essentially all I need is a cab, already have a frame that will work.
The one I saw in Surrey was being sold for 9 and it was in a good condition to be taken apart and restored since it had rust just starting to bubble and form in places. This one appears to be better so I'm wondering why it hasn't sold, it's been up for at least 2 months. Offer him 12k ;)
The HJ47 looks to be a better deal, as long as you can actually register it and like troopies.
 
The hj47 *looks* to be a good buy. There's ways around the registration issue if it is indeed a problem. My 45 didn't even have VIN tags. Years after I owned it and going through Aircare one day, they wanted to compare the vin to my papers. When they couldn't find them it was a bit of a show stopper of course, but I was able to quickly get a BC assigned VIN riveted to the door post that same day.

And that 45 Rob posted looks great. Yeah 15k is a lot, but it seems to be about market price these days for a 45..."illuminom" box and all....
 
Enigma said:
"illuminom" box and all....
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It's a very rare alloy mined in another dimension and then magically transported here on the backs of unicorns :D That alone is worth the price!

I would totally go for the HJ47 if I wanted a troopie setup. I got the feeling that if you walked in there with $8000-8300 cash and dropped it on the table it would be yours. Bring a trailer though.
 
I still cant belive how much money these 45's are fetching. clearly a collector type value there.

mat if I were you, if you like a leaf sprung cruiser, go for 70 series otherwise get some sot of 80 and never look back. best bang for the buck by far.
 
I don't like wagons that much. I like pickups. They work well for my needs on short and long trips as well as give me more options. I like the simplicity and reliability of leaf sprung vehicles but the comfort and articulation of links and coils or airbags is way nicer. I've had a bunch of different trucks, most of them were wagon style or similar and I know that doesn't work for me. There are not many medium sized pickups on the markets that are built well. Less so that have a simple body. I don't need fancy sheet metal curves, accent lines and all that pretty crap. I want a utilitarian, straight sheet metal, easy to repair and patch. K.I.S.S. approach. No wasted spaces, everything has a purpose or preferably more than one, don't need to go moving 10 different things out of the way to get to something I need. There aren't many pickups out there that met that criteria. A 45, 75, the Rover pickups with the separate bed (not the ones that were all one piece), the old Willy's ...I think that's pretty much it for the common ones. Of course I can start looking at some military rigs as well but on average most were larger than a mid size truck. I almost ended up owning a 55 Dodge army ambulance a long time ago even. Keeping in mind I basically just need the cab and front clip, since I pretty much have everything else, I don't have too many options. The Willy's were a bit small from what I remember and they are hard to find too, the Rovers are aluminum which I like but those are even harder to find in a pickup, the 45's at least were local and can occasionally be found. The 75 is a bit small and they were never here. So unless I bring one in from Australia or Japan (if they were offered there), I'm pretty much SOL on that. The mine trucks they brought over here are usually so badly rotted it's not worth pissing around with. Believe me, I've spent a lot of time looking around and testing out the trucks I have owned to find what works for me.
 
ok forget about rovers man. they should not even be an option. you missed the most obvious choice. first or second gen toy pickups with solid axle. to this day, i would say my most interesting wheeling was with a trusty 82 long box with 22r. that was an amazing rig. all you need is a detroit locker and 33x12.5's and a front winch
 
Nope, didn't miss it. I've owned 2 (one of which was the Trekker) and have the 2nd gen now. Cab is a bit small, the extra cab is nicer in the 2nd gens but it's not the same thing. I've always found them less comfortable on long trips mainly because you sit in them the same was as in a car, with your legs stretched out. Land Cruisers on the other hand you sit more like in a chair and on longer trips it is more comfortable. Like I said, I've spent a lot of time on this and choosing the right platform for my needs. The idea behind the build is something that will work well on weekend trips as well as month long treks. A taco doesn't fit that.
Rovers I don't care about other than maybe getting the cab off one. It's just a shell, they actually didn't screw that part up, only everything else they put into it.
There may be other options I have missed, but from what I have seen around our market that pretty much covers it.
Thanks for the suggestions though.
 
Yeah, $26,000 and you don't even get a roof?
I don't want someone else's project, at least not something that has been totally remade by someone else. No offense to anyone but there is no shortage of people who will cut corners and make it work just to sell it. If that is done in hidden places (which it usually is since it's harder to get to) then you won't find it until 4-5 years down the road when panels start falling off because they rotted from the inside out. Just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's done right. I would rather buy a truck that hasn't been molested or modified and do the work myself. It requires more time but at least you can only blame yourself for doing something incorrectly.
 
Tmax said:
Mat a Unimog might be an option for you after all. all you need to do is download the files
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Nice! but I thought they were 4 wheel drive not just 2 ;)
I could easily model that and get access to a 3D printer.

ForealBoreal said:
that was my old 75 and I regret selling it to that guy, wish it went to someone better.
It had a roof, he just has convertible fetish.
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Ouch, that hurts. If he likes convertibles he should get a Miata then :D
A convertible pickup I don't get, a 40 sure ...well not really in BC, it' either pissing rain or way too dusty on the trails to be running that. But a pickup that's convertible just seems like a waste. Sun roof would be nice, but that's it. Everyone has their preferences.
 
I like this redecked 45 sort of in the Mike McTague spirit
Cool decked 40.webp
 
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