...only problem is it's a little bit too small....
Finally found the 45 I can afford and is built pretty much the way I want it
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...only problem is it's a little bit too small....
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Since we're into some youtube videos, this kind of reminds me of the MacKenzie ....only they have 6x6 trucks 
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Needed a break from studying, found this little video that shows the differentials in the Pinzgauer and how they work. Very nice.
That's crazy how real it looks!
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Neat
I had the 710 troop carrier.
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very nice!
there's on for sale now on CL:
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/bnc/cto/4713601146.html
As well as a nice little unimog:
http://abbotsford.craigslist.ca/cto/4662577003.html
there's on for sale now on CL:
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/bnc/cto/4713601146.html
As well as a nice little unimog:
http://abbotsford.craigslist.ca/cto/4662577003.html
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I figured that both are a bit high, though no idea of the condition of the Pinzgauer and what it needs still. $6500 for the mog? thought they went for more than that. I've always liked the smaller ones but would rather have a diesel engine in them.
well if you must know, the most expensive 404 i have ever seen that got sold locally was that one and i think it went for about $7500 about maybe 5 years ago. (i'm pretty sure thats the same unimog). a few years ago a big shipment of 404's came in vancouver area. we actually have the highest concentration of them. initially they sold for $3500 and from there the price went higher as they exchanged hands and they got scattered all over north america.
i would love to have a 6x6 pinz just for the heck of it.
volvo made a prototype 8x8. there used to be a really cool old film that compared it to a 416 in many different situations but i cant find it now.
i would love to have a 6x6 pinz just for the heck of it.
volvo made a prototype 8x8. there used to be a really cool old film that compared it to a 416 in many different situations but i cant find it now.
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Over the years I've kept an eye out off and on for a unimog, especially something around the size of a 404 but haven't seen many of them around for sale. Guess I was looking in the wrong places. Around that price I would have happily bought one of those as opposed to my pickup.
A smaller 6x6 would be awesome in BC, a bit tight on some turns but there are so many trails it would be a blast on. It's weird that with the vast wilderness we have in Canada we don't have much of a selection of off-road surplus vehicles or commercial vehicles available for public purchase. Or if we do there doesn't seem to be that many driving around. About +7 years back I was working in downtown and a block away from the museum they had about 20 military g-wagons sitting there, stripped of all the electronics, for about 4 months. Just hanging out in a caged area of the parking lot. Tried to see if they were going for auction or get any kind of info about acquiring one but couldn't get a straight answer out of anyone.
A smaller 6x6 would be awesome in BC, a bit tight on some turns but there are so many trails it would be a blast on. It's weird that with the vast wilderness we have in Canada we don't have much of a selection of off-road surplus vehicles or commercial vehicles available for public purchase. Or if we do there doesn't seem to be that many driving around. About +7 years back I was working in downtown and a block away from the museum they had about 20 military g-wagons sitting there, stripped of all the electronics, for about 4 months. Just hanging out in a caged area of the parking lot. Tried to see if they were going for auction or get any kind of info about acquiring one but couldn't get a straight answer out of anyone.
ya a G would be nice. however, bigger IS better. even here in bc. a 404 is just an old dated POS in my opinion that belongs to a gravel pit or muesium. a little while ago i offered you to check out my baby project and the hardware thats going in it. these rig are designed to go off road and do well. hate to tell this in a lc board but landcruiesers were not. even the big ass 5 ton rig i got now (12 feet high, over 8 wide and probably 25 long) manuvers better than your typical small rig. but only seeing is beliving and sadly not too many people have seen. (except glen of course)
if you want a mog, there is no cheap way around it. a basic 1300L will rape anything off road (exept a better 1300L) but they would probably run you at least 30 grand for a nice model to start with. from there the sky is the limit but once you get the taste of a proper unimog, there is no turning back as you will find life would be meeningless without a unimog.
if you want a mog, there is no cheap way around it. a basic 1300L will rape anything off road (exept a better 1300L) but they would probably run you at least 30 grand for a nice model to start with. from there the sky is the limit but once you get the taste of a proper unimog, there is no turning back as you will find life would be meeningless without a unimog.
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I don't know, yes the large trucks are built that much tougher but there are plenty advantages to running a smaller truck. Land Cruisers are not built like unimogs or pinzgauers, those weren't ever built with the idea of being used as a commuter car for the masses. Land Cruisers were built to bridge the gap and be used for both military or commercial as well as regular consumer uses. They do a great job of that and then some. The units that were made for Japan, Australia and Africa are way better than what was offered in North America, with lockers, reinforced housings, PTOs, etc. Even then they were not meant to compete in the same markets as the unimog. Of course for some applications the Unimog will walk all over a Land Cruiser ...probably literally too. But you won't be able to cruise down in style to Moab, doing 130km/hr with the AC on in the mog ...well maybe the brand new ones you can. If I get one I would prefer a smaller one but it pretty much becomes a dedicated trail/trip vehicle, unlike all my past trucks it wouldn't be a daily driver. I realize that after wheeling one of those going back to something smaller is hard, that's like getting to play in a built up rock crawler and then being told to go wheeling in a stock jeep.
Still want to take you up on the offer of checking out the cool toys, will have to wait until after January and the end of my torture at university.
Still want to take you up on the offer of checking out the cool toys, will have to wait until after January and the end of my torture at university.
haha. here is the deal. your first statement was the best one. you dont know. and dont feel bad. trust me no one knows. (except Glen but thats just stating the obvious) thats why i offered to show you. LOL. its all internets fault. LOL
its not matter of building something tough. its all about building it right. this mentality is not understood in northamerica. how often do you hear the statement that trucks are built and not bought. again LOL.
long story short, the right unimog will not only cruise to moab at 130km/h with AC and recaro air ride seats in true mercedes style (not walfare toyota style), but will carry the old LC in the back of it with awesome fuel efficiency.
its not matter of building something tough. its all about building it right. this mentality is not understood in northamerica. how often do you hear the statement that trucks are built and not bought. again LOL.
long story short, the right unimog will not only cruise to moab at 130km/h with AC and recaro air ride seats in true mercedes style (not walfare toyota style), but will carry the old LC in the back of it with awesome fuel efficiency.
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The new 4000-5000 Uninogs do about 100 kph, unless the limiter is deactivated then it can 110 kmph. There is so much unsprung weight -it is obvious they are not built for speed -the older lighter 1300 gets about 10 mpg. About as fast as my antiquated 74 with less than 1/2 the fuel economy, based on my 5 annual trips to Moab. They are awesome trucks, but not for highway cruising to Moab.
My much lighter Pinzgauer with a 2.5 air cooled engine with twin 2 bbl carbs got about 15 mpg and was torture driving a 100 kph - noisy and cold -cold as hell - I traded the Pinzgauer for a Landcruiser in 2006 and I got a much more useable vehicle and have never looked back
My much lighter Pinzgauer with a 2.5 air cooled engine with twin 2 bbl carbs got about 15 mpg and was torture driving a 100 kph - noisy and cold -cold as hell - I traded the Pinzgauer for a Landcruiser in 2006 and I got a much more useable vehicle and have never looked back
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So you're telling me that it's about building it right and then laughing at the statement that a truck is built not bought? ...right....got you
So you're telling me that it's about building it right and then laughing at the statement that a truck is built not bought? ...right....got you
perhaps you missundrestood my comment.
what i ment is that the rig is built right from the factory and not moddified to suite later needs. ie, lifts, tires, gearing and such.
i do not have any real hands on exeprined with pinzgauers. i test drove one once and that was it. howere i can hold my weigth regarding unimog info even the bestest of the germans never mind here in north america.
the info you provided is absolutly inaccurate and incomplete.
what makes unimog go fast or determines how much fuel it uses is based one how the unit is geard and powered. the options are endless and two unimogs of the same size could have very different performance.
btw the first gen UHN's (the U3000-5000) that you reffered to are actually not very well powered. i am probably the only person that has extensive experience moddifying the only UHN in north america for rail use so take my word for it.
mat you mentioned 130km/h.