Just wanted to chime in here and say if you have an REI nearby, check out their garage sales. Most stores typically have them every 2 months or so. I was able to find a goal zero 1400 lithium wifi at my local REI garage sale for about 60% off retail price. It was new condition, returned after 1 use. Still had the original receipt in it....returned 4 days after buying. Customer said it was too big for what they wanted. Obviously, this is a big 'hit or miss' type of thing....garage sales have random assortment of items, but next garage sale after I bought mine, same store, they had another 1400 lithium with one boogered button for the USB outlets for $499. Crazy. I had to resist buying that one too. Anyway, may be worth taking a look if you are interested in one. It is a risk buying at a garage sale as all sales are final, so make sure to really test everything out before you buy. I've been super happy with mine and have it set up for charging off the 10amp 12v charger for now. I use it to run my 45 qt engel fridge and also to power the LED lights, USB phone charger, and 12v fan in my Alu-cab rtt. I haven't used it more than a few weekends so far, but I'm about to start on a 3 week cross country trip next Friday, so I'll update after that as to how it preformed over a long trip.