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Hawke said:
Problem:

dogs are man made animals (bred for specific traits). No man made dog would survive in the wild for more than a few months. If it is a non shedding breed, forget it. Nature doesn't put up with non-shedding breeds.

Wild animals eats raw foods but they cannot survive 10 to 15 years as can man made dogs.
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you think their lack of survival is because of their diet?

lookie here -- try 15-20, in an ideal environment --

http://library.thinkquest.org/3874/lifespan.html

so you're telling me that if you lived on mcdonalds dinners, laden with preseratives and addititives, you'd live longer than someone on a 100% natural raw diet, laden with supplements that provide vitamins and minerals?

i think the evidence points in the opposite direction --
 
erics_bruisers said:
how is that trolling?

this comes from you, with some freaking guy in his avatar, looking at me like he wants to give me a tongue-bath!

whatever, cca -- go get attention elsewhere --

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Two questions, freak:

(1) Why do you become obsessed by other people's avatars? See, for example, this gem of a thread you started: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=71977

(2) Why do you choose to try to insult me with a homoerotic erotic comment?
 
haha -- this isn't going anywhere --

-- anyway, back on topic --

-- any other raw feeding questions, i will happily answer -- :D

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CSA said:
Two questions, freak:

(1) Why do you become obsessed by other people's avatars? See, for example, this gem of a thread you started: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=71977

(2) Why do you choose to try to insult me with a homoerotic erotic comment?
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erics_bruisers said:
haha -- this isn't going anywhere --

-- anyway, back on topic --

-- any other raw feeding questions, i will happily answer -- :D

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CSA said:
Two questions, freak:

(1) Why do you become obsessed by other people's avatars? See, for example, this gem of a thread you started: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=71977

(2) Why do you choose to try to insult me with a homoerotic erotic comment?
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hmmmm...

CSA does make a good point.

What's the deal with the seeminly unending homoerotic comments? Sure, many here will throw a "that's so ghey/gay/rainbow" or similar comments in jest...but you take this to an extreme. What's the deal? What's your gig?

Why don't you just admit to yourself that you are who you are and be done with it. There's notthing wrong with it. Stop with the innuendo.
 
Hawke said:
Problem:
.... No man made dog would survive in the wild for more than a few months....
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Not true, domestic dogs gone feral are common all over the world.

Hawke said:
Problem:
... If it is a non shedding breed, forget it. Nature doesn't put up with non-shedding breeds.
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Never heard this one before, I'll research it.

Hawke said:
Problem:...

Wild animals eats raw foods but they cannot survive 10 to 15 years as can man made dogs.
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Taken literily I would point to tortises and the many other wild animals that live for over 100 years. Taken to mean canines, which I think was your intent, I would agree. But also consider the life span of humans in primitave cultures. Also consider that nutrition is only one factor in life span.
 
I have no idea what is going on.
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Is this thread about puppy diet or some on-going Hatfield-McCoy feud?

The OP offers to answer any questions related to the topic but has never answered mine. :confused:
 
rusty_tlc said:
<rusty gets out his paddle and attempts to get the thread back on course>

Please don't take this as a smart ass question, I really want to treat my current mutt as well as I possiably can. (We always treat our dogs as part of the family.) So if there is a better way than what I have been doing I really want to know.

I've raised a few healthy dogs on dry food and meat scraps. My last dog topped out at 90#, no fat.

All of my dogs have lived normal life spans, never had any dental problems, and always had healthy coats.

I always free feed my dogs and have never had one get over weight. This is easy with dry food but might be a problem with raw food.

So what would be my motive to change to a raw diet?
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The question isn't whether they get overweight or not, it's more on a healthy diet --

-- to me, the raw diet emulates dogs on a pre-kibble basis, when they got things such as table scraps, etc. and even when they were pre-dog, as wolf hybrids -- then their meals were 90% meat, which the raw diet is --

-- look at the top 4 ingredients in your dry food -- i am sure they're mostly grain -- a cheap alternative, that if flavored right, dogs wil eat.

also, through table scraps, the dogs aren't getting their vitamins and minerals as they do when i supplement mine --

-- further, their coats are cleaner, b/c there's less toxins being secreted -- they just are -- they don't get that nasty oily smell.

so, that's my take on it, and i swear by it -- :D

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