Hey guys "Dirty Mike and I broke down. He blew a water pump on my way to Vancouver so no I'm stranded 2 hours from home. I was wondering how easy it would be for me to change a water pump and how long it would take. I had a 81 yota pick up and did a motor swap on him so I am OK with mechanical things. Keep in mind I will have to buy all the tools I need.
Changing a water pump
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The pain is in the belts, if you can magically (or painfully) get the belts off without taking the shroud off its a 20 minute job to do the pump and pulley the rest is belts.
From memory the tools are standard toyota issue 12, 14 and maybe a bigger one for the pulley.
Get some new belts while you're at it.
From memory the tools are standard toyota issue 12, 14 and maybe a bigger one for the pulley.
Get some new belts while you're at it.
Yeah...that's why it's never a good idea to hang out with guys named "Dirty Mike" or "Randy Johnson"...
Is this for a 60 or 62?
I'm with Crick...it's a doable job.
For 60:
To remove the Alternator/PS pump belt, you are going to have to loosen up the alternator. Underneath the alternator is a pivot bolt that goes through the alternator itself and the bracket that holds the alternator - 14mm - You'll need two combo wrenches (or any combination of 2 wrenches/ratchets)
The long bolt on the top of the alternator that holds tension on the belt - 12mm. First you have to loosen the bolt that holds the tensioner bracket to the top of the alternator, then back out that long tensioner belt.
Then the alternator should rotate and allow you to remove the belt.
Same on the Air Pump, but not sure of the size of the pivot bolt at the bottom of the pump, but it is a little tricky to get to because will have to push the belt a little out of the way with the socket you are using to get the socket on the head of that bolt. A smaller 3/8" drive extension on the socket helps.
You should be able to remove the fan/fan clutch without removing the fan shroud. 4 nuts, you'll need a combo wrench- 12mm.
Then the water pump is held to the engine block with 5 maybe 6 bolts - 14mm.
3 hoses, so probably gonna need a screw driver there, depending on what type of hose clamps are on it.
You'll have to remove the 4 studs on the old water pump if you don't have 4 new studs. Take two of your nuts (yeah, I see the joke there...) and screw them onto one stud, one on top of the other, then back the bottom one out against the top one (you'll need two combo wrenches to do this) so that the stud backs out.
Razor blade and a rag to wipe the face of the engine block where the pump mates.
You'll need a gasket w/ gasket maker ("The Right Stuff" is good if available). I guess if this is emergency, you could use gasket maker without a gasket, but then you'll have to redo the job as soon as you get home...making a gasket from gasket paper would be better than no gasket.
Don't forget to burp the system to purge it of air after you at the coolant and are ready to start the car for the first time. (search 'burp' for steps in this procedure if you aren't familiar with the process).
Good luck.
EDIT: I just checked my rig and am pretty sure the only sized wrenches/sockets you will need is 12 and 14mm
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Hmm...if it's a 62, then some of those steps in the procedure might be a little different...better wait 'til someone with a 62 steps in and makes corrections.
For instance, I'm not sure that 62s have smog pumps?
But in principle, is you can remove the belts, you should be able to get the fan/fan clutch off the water pump with having to remove the fan shroud. And then pulling the water pump is right there, but as you note above, you'll need the right tools for the job...
Here's an image of the difference in belt routing between the 2F and the 3FE:
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Ha!... @dirtEJohnson that's hilarious...please excuse me while I put my other foot in my other mouth...
No offense meant, Mr. Johnson...or do you mind if I call you Dirt...I know you're a squared away guy because @reevesci vouches for you...so hopefully you won't take offense...
What's ironic is when I was reading the OP was that I was thinking..."that's a great name for a rig"...imagine having a serious discussion in front of complete strangers with your girlfriend about whether you are going to take "Dirty Mike" or leave him home tonight...
No offense meant, Mr. Johnson...or do you mind if I call you Dirt...I know you're a squared away guy because @reevesci vouches for you...so hopefully you won't take offense...
What's ironic is when I was reading the OP was that I was thinking..."that's a great name for a rig"...imagine having a serious discussion in front of complete strangers with your girlfriend about whether you are going to take "Dirty Mike" or leave him home tonight...
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I named my rig dirty mike from the movie the other guys. My bowlers name is the soup kitchen. "thanks for the ef shack. . Signed dirty mike and the boys. But yes my buddy texted me saying he was glad dirty mike was going to live to dirty mike another day
Is the alternator bolt that stripped the long one that holds the tension?
Look here for a mod:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/emergency-alternator-belt-tensioner.361965/
Look here for a mod:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/emergency-alternator-belt-tensioner.361965/
You home yet?
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Oh Yes we got back but not before blowing a rad hose 5 min out of town. But with a parts store close by we just went back and got new hoses. Thanks for the help. It was a lot easier working on my truck once I got a socket set.
I know what that's like...after installing a new radiator, water pump, and thermostat I blew one of those 30 year old hoses...replaced it...2 weeks later blew another one...decided just to replace all the hoses...
Well, glad you and Dirty Mike made it back OK!
I'm putting on my water pump and the hardest part seems to be putting on the 2 bottoms short hoses going from pump to bottom radiator and oil cooler. Any suggestions on how to do this before I bolt up the pump?
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@FJmoneypit - If you have AC and a 62 (that's what I have) it's not much fun. Have patience and take time to think about how to best position the hoses, pipe, and clamps. With some forethought it's easier but still a bit hard to get to. I highly recommend having a good beer or two on hand for when you finish. Of course if you don't have AC and a 62 than just follow the beer advice because no matter what you'll deserve it with a job well done.
Recent link specific to removing water pump studs on the FJ62:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/last-water-pump-impediment.826053/
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/last-water-pump-impediment.826053/