Center of Hub/ Fender Measurement

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OME Heavies

22 1/4 up front

23 1/2 at the rear

Slee blue caster correction

ARB Winch bumper (currently no winch) Factory rear bumper, factory skid, no sliders.
 
The OME rates are documented. From the numbers and what I know of both rigs, my guess would be a little over half a ton difference in sprung weight. We don't have individual tire weights, will guess at ~250lb per tire.

The ~2" (~ = about) thing came from memory of a phone conversation (has been awhile, feel free to look up Dan's spacer making thread if you need to document the date:D). I'm old so memory isn't the best, but Dan's was 23 inches and change (don't remember the change), mine is almost 25", turns out to be 24.75. So on those assumptions the difference is about 1.75".

Dan runs 1" spacers, I run 1.5", so the spring difference is ~1.25". 1.25" and 250 lb is pretty close to the OME spec. Spring rate isn't an exact indicator of load response, a lot of other things come into play, bushings have spring rate, etc. But will give a good idea of what changes to expect when changing springs on the same rig and the "rules of thumb"/measurements from like rigs can give some idea what to expect when setting up a new rig.

I'm just talkin' smack, ignore it :grinpimp:
 
Front: OME 850 = 22"; ARB with winch and dual batteries

Rear: OME 863
= 23"; Kaymar with 1 swingout, High lift, tools & on/off road must carry items, 3rd row seats removed.

Edit: I still have flares. For those not running flares, it looks like, to me, there's about a half inch difference. In other words flares hang down about 1/2 inch below the sheet metal fenders.
 
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The published curb weight differs depending on year, model, etc, mine is a LX, IIRC it's just short of 5000lb and most were delivered heavier than published due to added options, undercoat, etc.

The scale is at the security booth entrance of one of my customers, as I'm signing in, often look at the reading. Was there to deliver tools, had ~300lb of tools that were delivered, so 5640-300=5340.

My rig has 37" tires and wheel spacers, so what ~50lb a piece more than stock? The tires are on the scale, but not suspended, so don't effect spring height. 5340-200=5140, in my book that's pretty close to published curb weight.:hillbilly:

It's significant because without an estimated suspended weight, hub-flare measurements are good trivia but pretty much worthless. For example; IIRC cruiserdan runs J's and a 1" spacer in the front, when our rigs are parked close they look very different. IIRC his measurement is ~2" shorter than mine due to the added suspended weight he carries.

Not to stray too much from the thread, but my 94 weighs in at 5460. Kinda surprises me listening to other weights. Although have very little armor, I guess tires, suspension, roof rack, aftermarket hitch bar add up. Although i would think subtracting 3rd seats, factory running boards and spare would cancel some out.

All the interesting to know.
 
Was searching for stock height measurements--didn't know this thread existed, so here are my numbers:

OME 850 +15mm spacer = 22"
OME 863 +15mm spacer = 22.5"

Slee old style front bumper with 9K winch
Hanna sliders
Slee rear bumper with tire carrier
Heavy cargo box with heavy stuff in it

I recognize that my truck is heavy, but I'm starting to wonder if my springs are sagging with age.
 
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I just installed my 30mm MAF spacers front and rear.

front - 850+30mm spacer = 23.75
rear - 860+30mm spacer = 24.0 (no spare,no 3rd seats,no hitch)

6.5" between top of wheel and bottom of flare at all 4 wheels.
 
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850/860 with 1.5" BL and 30mm spacers on the front

Front = 24.5
Rear = 25.0
 
My other rig, a stock LX 450 with 3rd row seats, side steps, and receiver hitch removed:

Front: 850J (heavy) springs at 23"
Rear: 860 (medium) springs at 23"

Dead level with tools and recovery gear.

Caster correction is Slee plates and DC drive shaft.
 
24" Dead On all 4 corners. Truck weighs 7,600lbs with no Driver or Passengers. FOR Heavies .. Ride is AMAZING...!!!
 
28" in the rear
27.5" in front
Springs, spacers, packers, body lift (see signature)
 
I believe stock is 20" ... that is where I started. I am sure someone will corect me if I am wrong...:)


Was searching for stock height measurements--didn't know this thread existed, so here are my numbers:

OME 850 +15mm spacer = 22"
OME 863 +15mm spacer = 22.5"

Slee old style front bumper with 9K winch
Hanna sliders
Slee rear bumper with tire carrier
Heavy cargo box with heavy stuff in it

I recognize that my truck is heavy, but I'm starting to wonder if my springs are sagging with age.
 
19" on all 4 corners arb frount/slee rear/with spare/ slee sliders/warn 9000 multi in back with straps and d 6 D rings 1/2 tank of gas.
putting on used slee 6" this weekend:grinpimp::grinpimp:we will get new measurements after this weekend :bounce2::bounce:
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I have the 850/860 with the N73/N74? shocks. I've only added dual batteries and sliders at the moment. Orig spare is installed with 3rd row seat removed and no kit installed in the rear cargo area. It's been on for 3 years now, and this is what I just measured (added an extra 1/4" to acct for dist between fender flares and actual metal lip).

front - 22.25"
rear - 23.25"
 
brand new 850j/863 9500lb winch on tube bumper rear close to factory weight. 22.75 front 24" rear.4' slees ordered for front.
 
just got my used lift on to day.sll 6".. slee sliders/slee rear bumper with spare tier and hi-lift jack/A.R.B. front warn 9000 multi mount with gear bag about 60 pound of d/rings straps and chain all in the back.
front 26"
back 27" :clap:
 
97 LC w stock height OME replacement kit, front heavies, rear medium. ARB non-winch bumper. 20.75 in front and 21 in the rear. Rides like a dream.
 
Bump this back up. Useful info in here. Just to keep it rolling......

Stock supsension with 115lb front bumper/MT sliders/IPOR skid. Totaling roughly 315lbs

Front 19"
Rear 19.75"
Roof height without rack 73.5"


 
King 4" springs

I installed some 4" king springs a few weeks back. I have a "light" truck with no front bumper, no 3rd row and cloth seats. I do have a roof rack and beefy rear bumper with 2 swing outs holding a 93lbs tire/wheel and 10 gallons of 91.

Driver side front - 27"
Passenger side front - 26.5"
Driver side rear - 25"
Passenger side rear - 24.5"
 
97 Lx450, No extra weight added, super saggy Js F&R... With an additional 2in spacer in the front & 1in in the rear:

Front: 24.5
Rear : 25.5

Rolling on Gen II 37x12.5x16.5 MT/Rs
 

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