Carport Burglary – Part 2 - this time nailed.

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So it seems I can arrest him under the citizen's arrest clause -

Lets see how that scenario might play out in Canada-- its 2:30 am, I am outside, alone, its cold, I am in my pajamas with no Taser, no pepper spray, no handgun (all prohibited or highly restricted in Canada), no bullet proof vest, no boots on, but I do have my warm slippers on.

- so how do I arrest and physically detain an career burglar from running away, without fisticuffs for 20 minutes until the police swing by ???
-I have concluded the police are hoping residents don't get involved so the scumbag gets away which minimizes their workload and that of the court system (my experience in 4 of the 5 times I have been robbed - nothing happens - nothing gets returned).
-what pack of 'ivory tower' morons in Ottawa dreams up this legislation of allowing a citizen's arrest when most citizens are unarmed in their pajamas, without thinking it through or at least consulting with those affected people.
- we should export a few thousands Westcoast addicts and crackheads to Ottawa and wait till the legislators are repeatably victimized.
- we could get rid of most of this time-consuming drug related property crime committed by addicts by giving out free drugs - register all of them.
- the drug gangs would be out of business
- the broad daylight executions in Vancouver might decline
- this could be much cheaper than the societal costs to residents, police and judiciary of this completely retarded system we have now.
 
I agree that making arrests as an unarmed citizen is not a great idea. The authority is there though if needed to protect Canadians (to some extent) if protecting their property. Many of us would have a hard time watching someone walk away with our property however is it worth risking your life over? That's a personal choice.

Police would prefer citizens don't get involved as this has inherent risks to personal safety and can lead to injury. Criminals are desperate, especially when they aren't expecting confrontation. Fight or flight...

Unfortunately, B&E's are not often easy to solve...even with all the resources in the world. Without witnesses or physical evidence it's tough. Many can be solved down the road if property is recovered.

If I catch someone in my house in the middle of the night I know that if they get away from me they likely are not going to be caught (at least not right away) so it's a tough call not to intervene.
 
blast off a couple bear bombs .gets rid of the guy for good and has every neighbour looking out the window and the cops get called with shots fired . keep in mind most hard core criminals pack a legal blade. i dont understand why they do not restrict a knife for any multiple offenders.
 
wrongway around said:
blast off a couple bear bombs .gets rid of the guy for good and has every neighbour looking out the window and the cops get called with shots fired . keep in mind most hard core criminals pack a legal blade. i dont understand why they do not restrict a knife for any multiple offenders.
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Many convicted offenders are prohibited from carrying knives or other weapons, in addition to possessing firearms...however, seeing as they're criminals and don't obey laws anyways, do you figure they care about following these conditions, not likely.
 
so true kind of on the dont care thing but i know lots of people who can not have weapons(retricted or not) but a common lock blade on the belt (not a concealled weapon) is good to go ,its like a criminal getting caught commiting something with or without a mask ,its a totally different ball game when your in court
 
Have a big wooden bat and next time you get the upper hand on him, wait till he is in the open and swing for the head. Quick and quiet no one has to be alerted, dump the body and burn the bat :D
 
The question to you readers is not about ‘if ' this will happen to you --it is about 'when' and when it does -- it will happen when you least expect it.
Insurance is a poor substitute for prevention of theft. Here are a few points based on my experience ....

· Most crack head burglars don’t usually carry weapons as that will escalate their charge.
· My house insurance has a $1,000 deductible – put in a claim result-- Homeowner Loses.
· Theft of bicycles usually has low value claim limits -- Homeowner Loses
· On my insurance claim last June I got just over $0.50 on the dollar back -- Homeowner Loses.
· I lost my 5-year claims free discount – my rates when up -- Homeowner Loses
· The theft burned up about 20 hours of my time – interviews, paperwork, listing and checking values - Homeowner Loses
· Damage from forced entry into your truck is subject to a deductible. Homeowner Loses
· Equipment left in my truck for camping, wheeling is generally not covered by the household or vehicle policy - Homeowner Loses
· You don’t sleep as well at night - Homeowner Loses.
 
Glenn, adopt an adult dog. Sure you'll have a bit of crap to clean up every week but you will have a loyal friend who won't complain if you've had one too many, a constant guard and a wheeling buddy that will let you know when danger is around your camp. You may want a bit smaller breed that will fit into your rig.

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I have two small Schnauzers - they both sleep inside and are both wimps - the wife would not want them hurt. I have enough crap to pick-up in the yard so another big dog is a non-starter. I love dogs and have had them all my life, but they are now limiting our travel mobility.
For a while now I have been thinking of selling - for a number of reasons, house too big, I don't need to be in town, I do not like cities, street people drawn to free food/accommodation, property taxes going up to ( $250-$500/year) to pay for $0.75 billion sewage project a dozen marine biologists and oceanographers at UVic say we don't need, and now these scumbag incidents.

PS Lovely dog.
 
Glenn-BJ74 said:
PS Lovely dog.
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Not my dog. But we almost adopted one like him from the Chilliwack pound. Here are our two mutts that we adopted. Kita (on the right) is nick named "evil Kita" . Charlie is a wimp unless he thinks Kita is being threatened by another dog.

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Glen:
I was very sorry to read of your latest episode with B&E at your house. Here in Vancouver we stil think that Victoria is a safe, old fashioned town where nothing much happens. You've had bad luck with your property and we are all saddened to learn about it. If you lock your Cruiser up tight in a garage, you might have better luck. I have been thinking that it's time to move out of the city, it's getting too big and there are too many a**holes running around. I'd like to hear what your next line of defense will be.
~B
 
When you filed a claim against your insurance policy, Glenn, how much did your premium go up?

We have experienced a house break in when we lived in Vancouver and my car has been broken into a couple of time. We had a van stolen once as well.

I did catch a guy who was in my car stealing change, cd's and so forth. I ran up to the drivers door, locked it as the window was open, then told the guy to empty his pockets and strip and hand each thing out the window. I took what was mine, chucked his stuff in the middle of the road and assured him if I ever saw him again, he would regret it.

I'm very sorry to hear of your experiences with these leaches who cause nothing but huge expenses for our society. And I agree, legalize drugs, register addicts and give them their fixes for free.
 
Atta boy Glenn!

At my last rented place in town, I kept a baseball bat, bear spray and two sets of big "zap strap handcuffs" by the door. The one time I caught a guy I beat him so badly I didn't bother tying him up. I felt he had had enough and I was planning on moving within the month. lol.

Good on you for doing it right, protect yourself from the thieves and lawyers alike.

PS... I hope your mountain bike wasn't a REKTEK... man I loved those titanium bikes.
 
Any 20-year old Ti bike stolen is a real shame; Kona Hei Hei, Lightspeed, Moots, ???

I hope some-day it finds its way back to you Glenn, along with all your other valuables.
 
It was a 1992 Kona Hei Hei hard tail - it was a beautiful bike- I put thousands of hours on it and they are still being raced today - very fast and resilient frame. I have a Specialized Epic now, but I would still trade it for the Hei Hei.

When that went missing - Homeland Security Plan Phase 1 was implemented - Phase II is now under development (not on this thread).:hillbilly:

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My neighbours house was broken into a couple years back (unlocked back door). Their HUGE dog chased the girl out, then chewed on her in the back yard. Se had to go to hospital to get fixed up. The police have informants around town who said that the word on the street was that a girl got chewed up by a big dog on ******** Drive. Perfect! Nobody needs to know which house, might as well leave the whole neighborhood alone.

Glenn, lets hope you never have to go to Phase 2, but if you do we want to hear about it!
 
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