Bad 3FE AFM causing lack of power at WOT?

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I've been chasing what I assume is an air/fuel mixture issue with my 91 3FE FJ80. The car starts and idles perfect at 650rpm and when I first press on the gas, all seems fine. Once the rpms hit around 1500 rpms or second gear the car loses all power and can hardly get up a hill. If I ease up on the pedal and keep pedal below 1500 rpms it goes back to normal but can't get above 10 mph.

My initial thought was some sort of fuel delivery issue. I know I should've tested fuel pressure first but I had just gotten the injectors rebuilt and had all the associated fuel parts waiting to install so I went ahead with installing a new fuel pump and FPR thinking the issue would go away but alas the issue persisted. And before anyone asks— yes, a brand new fuel sock was put in with the new fuel pump and the fuel filter is less than 1k miles old. Peeked into the tank while I had the fuel pump out and its clean. No rust.

With fuel delivery ruled out for now, I then moved into the air/intake system. The throttle body has been off and cleaned of all gunk. TPS and IAC bench tested and all checked out. Now we get to the AFM. At first the AFM passed the bench test also. Resistance check all seemed fine but then I went ahead and plugged the AFM with ignition on to do a voltage sweep check and got back some questionable results.

With ignition on, I back probed E2 and VS while opening the flap gradually and the voltage seemed to move inversely... With flap fully closed voltage is at 3.94v and as I push the flap open the voltage drops. Shouldn't it go up? Could the voltage drop cause the ECU to interpret this as less air? I've included a video of the voltage test as well as a photo of E2 and VC measuring at 5v.

For what its worth, the car's been desmogged also. Could that be contributing to the issue?

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The voltage correlation is inverse in these, 5v reference is fed in and the potentiometer drops it more and more as it opens. You need to check it against the values provided in the FSM and make sure it doesn't "jump around"

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The voltage correlation is inverse in these, 5v reference is fed in and the potentiometer drops it more and more as it opens. You need to check it against the values provided in the FSM and make sure it doesn't "jump around"

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Thanks for the quick reply. Followed the FSM for testing the AFM's resistance and it was all in spec. Though the voltage change was in reverse, it did so smoothly with no dead spots or jumps...
 
Thanks for the quick reply. Followed the FSM for testing the AFM's resistance and it was all in spec. Though the voltage change was in reverse, it did so smoothly with no dead spots or jumps...
As a quick test, I'd plug everything back in proper, and just unplug your O2 sensor and see how it reacts
 
Did you ever find a solution for this? Battling something similar on my '93. Ive replaced the fuel pump & sock, fuel filter, COR, fuel pressure relay and fuel pump relay. I also tested the VAF and TPS and was in spec on both. I know we have different engines, but the symptoms are remarkably similar.
 
Did you ever find a solution for this? Battling something similar on my '93. Ive replaced the fuel pump & sock, fuel filter, COR, fuel pressure relay and fuel pump relay. I also tested the VAF and TPS and was in spec on both. I know we have different engines, but the symptoms are remarkably similar.
Took a long break from wrenching on the 3fe with the rough winter we got here in NJ/NY. I'm just about ready to get back into it now that temps are warming up.

Continued to research this and this is where I'm at... The next likely culprit is the EFI coolant temp sensor. This video was extremely helpful. The CTS communicates with the ECU to dictate idle and throttle response. I've ordered the part along with a few cooling related items and am getting ready to tackle this this upcoming weekend so i'll report back but I'd give that a shot on your rig. The FSM should have instructions on how to test it with a multimeter but I'm gonna go ahead and replace the part and see what happens.
 
Took a long break from wrenching on the 3fe with the rough winter we got here in NJ/NY. I'm just about ready to get back into it now that temps are warming up.

Continued to research this and this is where I'm at... The next likely culprit is the EFI coolant temp sensor. This video was extremely helpful. The CTS communicates with the ECU to dictate idle and throttle response. I've ordered the part along with a few cooling related items and am getting ready to tackle this this upcoming weekend so i'll report back but I'd give that a shot on your rig. The FSM should have instructions on how to test it with a multimeter but I'm gonna go ahead and replace the part and see what happens.
Thanks for the response. Mine ended up being a broken ECT. Replaced that and have since moved on to the next issue. I love my truck, but it seems like in a 30+yo vehicle there is always something that needs to be fixed.
 
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