Any hunters or target shooters here?

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Now on subject. =D

I am a pretty big firearm enthusiast. Medium long range is by far the most fun but I have a few decent weapons in the safe for just about everything.

Actually just finished this beauty:

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Only have had a chance to take it to 700 yards. hitting 12" steel plates at that distance with it consistently with factory loads is pretty easy. Weather has been pretty crappy so taking it further will be for another day.


thats pretty awesome performance for and auto loader with factory loads.
 
its funny my intend was not to debate types of guns but here it goes for toynut.

it is great that you have played with guns but sometimes its best not to make assumptions. a semi can not be turned into auto. you may think so but not simple. clearly you are not familiar with how an auto works. long story shot, the hammer has to be released after the cartridge is chambered without any input from triger. this function is not available in your average sporting semi auto period. you can chamber a round with the hammer pulled already but you may very well blow up the gun in your face as the trigger is pulled before the cartridge is chambered. a converted sporting semi auto is more dangerous to the shooter than it is to the target.;)
 
Wow that got out of hand fast.

To answer Tmax, I wouldn't call myself an enthusiast, but I have some firearms [STRIKE]kicking around[/STRIKE] legally stored.

I've done a couple rounds of skeet shooting with a rusty old side-by-side I got a while back. Nothing serious. I've never been hunting and I don't have CORE yet. I wouldn't have any idea how to clean a deer properly.

I wouldn't hold your breath for any clarity in gun laws. Wasn't it a year or so ago that there was a rumour out of the Justice Department that some draft law considered requiring locked cases secured to a wall or floor for ammo? When the leak happened the Minister was quick to quash it and blame it on some junior staffer. Any tinkering with those laws is sure to be a huge political liability for any party. The laws are incredibly vague and, often times, ridiculous. Eg. some definition of "not easily broken into" would be nice. Also, "accessible to", as in your firearms in relation to ammunition. Does that mean across the room? In a different room on the same floor? One flight of stairs away? In the garage?

Not long ago some poor guy got, I think, a ten year firearms ban and several years of probation for storing an unloaded, unlocked 12-gauge in what was later determined to be an "easily broken into" locked closet with a single .22 cartridge on the floor. He also had one or two .22 rifles with cable locks through the actions. The fact the .22 cartridge couldn't possibly be fired by the 12-gauge didn't matter. Also, he thought his locked closet was "not easily broken into" but the cops and courts decided his hasp was too small I guess. Had they decided his hasp was adequately beefy, the storage would have been in accordance with the law.

That's why I double lock everything. Cable, or trigger locks, as well as inside a purpose built locked case. Oh, another thing: there's no laws regarding the placement of the keys to any of the locks. You could place them on a shelf next the case, as far as I can tell.

Matt Gurney of the National Post writes quite often about these things.
 
saw this on another forum. i think its very well said and shows that we need to look at the bigger picture.


As I sit here on a cold Sunday morning thinking about the events of the last few days I can't help but contemplate the future of our once great country. It also has me wondering what part I can play in perhaps restoring some of its lost values and glory.

I am personally affected by the reclassifications..... in the back of my mind I knew this day would come, I thought the restricteds I have would be the first to go but I also thought the next Liberal government would pick that "low hanging fruit", not the current government. As more details come out we will find out how much the CPC knew about the reclassification but as it appears now it was the RCMP working within their own mandate. We also know the upper managment within the RCMP are rabid anti's and staunch liberals. I deal with rank and file RCMP on a weekly basis and although uninformed on most firearms issues I don't find them bad guys. I try to maintain respect for the uniform but its becoming increasingly difficult. I am under no illusions that they are here to protect me. They are here to police me. Does that make me a subject?

I think we as Canadians and more so as humans have sowed a wind and now we are reaping the whirlwind. The great societal experiment that is liberalism is finally manifesting itself. Canada isn't the only one in this position and I would submit that every country in the world that once stood for something great finds itself in the same place if not worse. I just spent a couple weeks stateside and they are fighting the same fight and they have a very clear constitution. The previous status quo is now the minority. But hey, at least we're multicultural and pro everything. Almost. It gives me little hope for our sport, having no right to bear arms in our constitution.

I have read other posts where guys have said "this is our hill"...... I think they're right. I don't think the only thing at stake is our guns though. When an unelected official is making policy that makes me a criminal overnight, who really is in the driver seat of the country? When they decide next year that the religion I practice is unacceptable or perhaps the colour of my skin is wrong what then? I know I know, this is tin foil hat talk right? What we are seeing being done now was tin foil talk five years ago too. I think the only way our fight is winnable is to get anybody that enjoys any kind of freedom behind us. The zombies that enjoy the police state utopia will never be on our side and that's a growwing chunk of our population, we are the minority. We require unity.

I believe the near future will define an important time in our national history. I know as a community we are upset at the theft of our rights and property but this picture is way bigger than the guns. It's time to stand up. This is our hill!!!

R
 
Well I might as well chime in on this too, while I do have more than my share of firearms BILLC-68 MUST be quashed and Bob Paulson should be removed.
Every Canadian (gun owner, gun hater and gun lover) should be outraged at the WAY C-68 is being used.
It is not about guns at all, if Bob Paulson, as head of the RCMP wants my guns he should come after them through proper channels and that is through elected officials.
This individual was not elected by Canadians he was appointed, he is on his own crusade to remove legally owned arms (all arms) from all but the RCMP.
This bill turned upwards of 1800 Canadians into criminals overnight for something bought and owned legally for the past 12 years.
Bob Paulson is single handedly writing and enacting Canadian criminal law, how is this even possible!
At this rate soon we will have the head of the SPCA telling folks to bring in their dogs to be put down because someone could get bit.
I urge everyone to write or email their MP to have bill C-68 removed.
I can't understand how every Canadian is not screaming mad over this.
This can't be one of those things left to just a few people to fight against, it sets way to big a precedence not to be opposed by everyone.
 
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Further this bill will do more to push legally owned guns underground that any other move possible.
Next to nobody is going to turn over their legally bought property to anyone, not to mention without even some form of compensation.
I suppose your right hand drives could be next, This is the type of bill that gives the go ahead to a new form of law making.
 
My favourite is when people get all red in the face and say "We should ban all assault rifles. No one needs an assault rifle!"

Then when you ask them to define an assault rifle the first thing they say is a full auto. Then you tell them that FAs are prohibited. Then they say, "well anything with a banana clip then." Um, MAGAZINES capable of holding more than five rounds are prohibited." After learning these things it basically turns out they don't like matte black or OD green long guns with picatinny rails.

Then you pull out a Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle and "Oh that's fine," not realizing they shoot the same .223 "high powered" rounds at the same rate of fire as many "assault rifles."

My mum barely blinked when I showed her my rusty old double barrel, but blew a gasket when I pulled out my milspec pump action with ghost ring sights, a shoulder strap and an ammo holder on the butt.

It's largely emotions of the uneducated.
 
I'm not a gun owner and its upsetting to see the as I see it
The RCMP blatantly making up there own rules and laws
And them not having to abide by the rules
 
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