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SortaWrench

SortaWrench

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I’ve been searching here trying to learn as much as I can about the AHC Suspension system, both on operation and repairs, including deleting it. But even after searching and reading I still could use some help.

I have a 2005 Lexus 470, and it has a much fancier suspension than my old 1994 Land Cruiser. I’m having issues with the rear suspension. It has been smooth for years. But recently, it changed. I took it to the local Toyota dealer, and they replaced the rear coil springs. The dealer also mentioned that the AHC suspension had been deleted. These were in the tech’s notes on the work order, but the service writer really couldn’t explain it to me (and it doesn’t make sense to me). The problem is that after repairs, it’s not any better, it’s not back to how it was. I’m not happy with the dealer, and want to figure this out for myself. The front will raise and lower, but not the rear. I’ve checked underneath, it has the globes, all four of them. So maybe it is a partial/rear delete? Do people do partial/rear deletes only? Any advice on what to look at next, to help diagnose, confirm what is going on, and what to check next?
 
A partial delete? How is that possible without messing up the system.
So the globes are there, is there fluid in the reservoir?
Is the height sensor in the rear still there and in the correct position, not bend etc?

The best way to check is to get Techstream and re-read the ABC of AHC on this forum.
It is a simple system really.
 
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SortaWrench said:
I’ve been searching here trying to learn as much as I can about the AHC Suspension system, both on operation and repairs, including deleting it. But even after searching and reading I still could use some help.

I have a 2005 Lexus 470, and it has a much fancier suspension than my old 1994 Land Cruiser. I’m having issues with the rear suspension. It has been smooth for years. But recently, it changed. I took it to the local Toyota dealer, and they replaced the rear coil springs. The dealer also mentioned that the AHC suspension had been deleted. These were in the tech’s notes on the work order, but the service writer really couldn’t explain it to me (and it doesn’t make sense to me). The problem is that after repairs, it’s not any better, it’s not back to how it was. I’m not happy with the dealer, and want to figure this out for myself. The front will raise and lower, but not the rear. I’ve checked underneath, it has the globes, all four of them. So maybe it is a partial/rear delete? Do people do partial/rear deletes only? Any advice on what to look at next, to help diagnose, confirm what is going on, and what to check next?
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Id be wondering if the shop also took out the shocks/rams. Then didn't know wtf they were doing and are trying to cover it up.

Did you not raise/lower it in all the "years" you had the truck?
If you did and all corners worked then they did it and are lying about it being a delete and they need to fix it.
Cause who would do a partial delete and why.
 
Use Techstream to get the AHC data and post the readout.

Never heard of a rear only delete. Probably wouldn't work too well but suppose it could be theoretically possible if the rear lines are capped. Can you take pictures of the rear suspension showing the spring, the hydraulic ram (looks like a shock), and the hydraulic line going into it?

What is the issue you have with the rear?
Is the suspension uncomfortable?
Does it feel rough/bouncy?
Are you carrying additional weight / mods (such as roof rack, drawers, etc)?
 
Wilsil said:
A partial delete? How is that possible without messing up the system.
So the globes are there, is there fluid in the reservoir?
Is the height sensor in the rear still there and in the correct position, not bend etc?

The best way to check is to get Techstream and re-read the ABC of AHC on this forum.
It is a simple system really.
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Thank you for your response. Evidently my dealer or the mechanics know nothing about the AHC system. My vehicle was operating perfectly then in an instant it failed and just started bouncing. The dealer did not address any of the three components of the AHC but instead replaced the springs with after market springs for some reason. Now the rear of my vehicle is sitting 2 1/2” x 3” to high and looks ridiculous not to mention my head lights are pointing ten feet in front of the car and driving on the highway at night is impossible.
I’m taking it back to the dealer today to try to humiliate them into replacing the springs white the proper ones to restore the proper height and be able to actually check the specs properly. I’m having issues navigating this forum and trying to get back to a thread that has the “ A thru Z of the AHC system. Could you possibly help with posting a link to this thread and the moderator who posted it . Thanks!
 
Hello SortaWrench,
I'm 95% sure this is what happened...

The dealership installed the wrong rear coil springs, and hopefully that's all that they've done.
They incorrectly thought that a 100 Series Land Cruiser has the same suspension as a LX470 and they installed Land Cruiser Rear Coil Springs.
This is why your Rear End is sitting 2" Higher than Usual.
If they install the Correct LX470 Rear Coil Springs, you should be back to where you started.
Note: This is why I tell everyone to have the shop / dealership give you the parts they removed / replaced...

The AHC Portion of your Suspension should be supporting part of the weight of your SUV.
The Front Torsion Bars and the Rear Coil Springs should be supporting the other part of the weight of your SUV.
Right now, in the Rear of your SUV, the Rear Coil Springs are supporting All of the Rear Weight.
Therefore, when you attempt to change AHC Height (L, M, or H), the Rear does not change.
The Rear is Already at H due to the Rear Coil Springs.

Since you're in Denver / Colorado, the state that has more Land Cruisers than probably the other 49 combined, there are some great independent Toyota mechanics.
Slee comes to mind...
When it comes to the AHC System in your LX, I would not take it to a dealer.

You're welcome to call me to discuss.
(412) 491-0261 is my cell.
I'm currently in Breckenridge, so less than 2 hours away.

Enjoy.
Tom
 
I'd reach out to @2001LC and see if he can help you out. Dude seems to know his stuff!
 
SuperExciteBike said:
Use Techstream to get the AHC data and post the readout.

Never heard of a rear only delete. Probably wouldn't work too well but suppose it could be theoretically possible if the rear lines are capped. Can you take pictures of the rear suspension showing the spring, the hydraulic ram (looks like a shock), and the hydraulic line going into it?

What is the issue you have with the rear?
Is the suspension uncomfortable?
Does it feel rough/bouncy?
Are you carrying additional weight / mods (such as roof rack, drawers, etc)?
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VERY bouncy! And it happened instantly, I believe it’s 1 of the 2 back globes.
 
I forgot to ask earlier, was this a Toyota or Lexus Dealer?
Lexus Dealers are typically, but not always, better educated than Toyota dealers on AHC, since 1998 to 2007 LX470s and 2008 to 2021 LX570s all have (had...) AHC.
Only 2006 and 2007 Land Cruisers had AHC, and for those 2 years it was Optional, not Standard (although I lot of them had it).

After you get the correct rear springs installed, you can do the following test to see if your globes are shot...
No Techstream needed...

AHC Graduation Test

Put SUV in Low (Wait 60 Seconds After Low is Reached).
Mark fluid level in Reservoir
- Put a piece of Painter's tape Vertically on the Reservoir, beside the graduation lines
- Mark on the tape where the level is
- If it's hard to see the level, put a light behind the Reservoir

Put SUV in Normal, then in High (Wait 60 Seconds After High is Reached).
Mark fluid level in Reservoir (same process as above...).

The number of graduations / ticks on the Reservoir between Low and High should be at least 7.
Brand new globes will give you 12+ graduations.

Note: The Graduations can improve a little after doing an AHC Fluid Change and / or Properly Adjusting AHC Pressures.
 
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Snow Wagon said:
I forgot to ask earlier, was this a Toyota or Lexus Dealer?
Lexus Dealers are typically, but not always, better educated than Toyota dealers on AHC, since 1998 to 2007 LX470s and 2008 to 2021 LX570s all have (had...) AHC.
Only 2006 and 2007 Land Cruisers had AHC, and for those 2 years it was Optional, not Standard (although I lot of them had it).

After you get the correct rear springs installed, you can do the following test to see if your globes are shot...
No Techstream needed...

AHC Graduation Test

Put SUV in Low (Wait 60 Seconds After Low is Reached).
Mark fluid level in Reservoir
- Put a piece of Painter's tape Vertically on the Reservoir, beside the graduation lines
- Mark on the tape where the level is
- If it's hard to see the level, put a light behind the Reservoir

Put SUV in Normal, then in High (Wait 60 Seconds After High is Reached).
Mark fluid level in Reservoir (same process as above...).

The number of graduations / ticks on the Reservoir between Low and High should be at least 7.
Brand new globes will give you 12+ graduations.

Note: The Graduations can improve a little after doing an AHC Fluid Change and / or Properly Adjusting AHC Pressures.
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Thanks Snow Wagon, the dealer ordered the correct springs and they should be installed this Tuesday (the 14th) I will try this immediately. My front end still raises and lowers but the rear is dead.
 
Hello SortaWrench,
Your rear is not dead :-)
The wrong coil springs are just holding it as high or higher than the H level of the AHC system.
I'm confident once the correct new LX470 rear coil springs are installed, your rear will go up and down again!
Let us know Tuesday, after the dealer corrects their mistake, how it's going.
Enjoy.
Tom
 
Snow Wagon said:
Hello SortaWrench,
Your rear is not dead :-)
The wrong coil springs are just holding it as high or higher than the H level of the AHC system.
I'm confident once the correct new LX470 rear coil springs are installed, your rear will go up and down again!
Let us know Tuesday, after the dealer corrects their mistake, how it's going.
Enjoy.
Tom
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Thanks for your input, I believe I’ll take a photo of the truck before the bad spring replacement and after and post. I’m actually thinking it will get worse again but we will see. I checked the AHC fluid and it’s still topped off, it was changed some time ago but it’s no longer pink so I will pick up some new fluid and change it out. I’m a little concerned because the tank is very dark and I had to check the fluid with a makeshift dipstick. I will inform of the developments.
 
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