A/C recharge - need some QUICK answers....

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A/C - need some QUICK answers- round 2

Still having problems with A/C!!!

Raventai, thanks for your input.

Still, when the vehicle is put into drive, the a/c compressor
is being told to shut off.

New Ideas?
 
were you able to get a 94 EWD? have you tried jumping any of the relays?
 
What is an EWD?
We have (finally) a factory service manual!
And if you jump it, and wire it direct it will work. I don't really want to do that.
Also, I had a car starter installed over the winter. I'm hoping that is not the problem.
 
EWD = electrical wiring diagram

not sawing to jump them permanently just for a short period to test for witch switch or relay is turning off the compressor, as long as you only jump contact pins you will not harm the truck (that is why you need the EWD to find the right pins) after you find out witch switch or relay it is that turns the compressor off you have narrowed it down to that part of the system and it will be much easier to work with, as of right now there are to many possibilities

the crank realy on my 96 Ties into the starter through the neutral safety switch it is a possibility that something went wrong during the install or that the starter is sends a bit of voltage up to the relay when it should not be, if it works propperly after jumping the crank realy you will be closer to an answer
 
Ok, I can't find the relays. Where are they on your 96?
 
not naer my manual right now, but IIRC most of the realys are behind the glove box area, but you should not mess with those without the EWD, you could try the pressure switch right now without an EWD as it simple and only has 2 wires, on my 96 the pressre switch is just infront of the batery behind the headlights. it is a bulbus looking thing with wrench flats that is threaded into a fitting in the middle of an aluminum refrigerant tube with a 2 wire bundle going to it, release the clip and take the plug off the switch, best would be to make a short jumper by crimping 2 blade terminals on a 6 inch or so piece of wire, or you could do it the red neck way and just strip a piece of wire and stuff the bare ends into the plug, inset both ends of the jumper into the bundle side of the clip, the pressure switch is now out of thr loop the truck thinks the pressure is OK, the compressor will run no matter if the pressure is to high or to low, have an assistant get in start the engine turn the ac on in park, you watch the compressor, the center of the ac clutch should start turning have the assistant put the truck in gear if the comopressor still cuts out the pressure switch is not your problem. call Cdan and order the EWD for further troubleshooting, if it does not cut out in gear then than:

A the pressure is to low or to high, there is to much or to little refrigerant in the system, sease operating it as this can kill the compressor, have it propperly serviced (more likely)
b the switch is bad (less likely)
 
another thing, if jumping the pressure switch is not the fix check for voltage at either pin in the plug to battry ground with the truck in drive, that will lt you know if the problem is up or down stream
 
I like the idea of the harness at the EGR valve. There is a temp switch on the engine that will kill the relay on the compressor clutch clutch. To confirm this you could short IH2 pin 17 (green w/yellow stripe) to ground. If the compressor stays on then it's in the harness or a bad coonection at the temp sensor.
 
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I like the idea of the harness at the EGR valve. There is a temp switch on the engine that will kill the relay on the compressor clutch clutch. To confirm this you could short IH2 pin 17 (green w/yellow stripe) to ground. If the compressor stays on then it's in the harness or a bad coonection at the temp sensor.
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the 96 LX EWD has no IH2, maybe there are some substantial differences in the clutch wiring between the LC and LX due to the auto AC?

on the LX the ground side of the coolant temp relay is still green and yellow but passes through IK2 pin 2 and IL2 pin 17 on its way to the coolant temp sensor, the relay is another normally closed, grounding its coil (simulating sensor over heat) would open the contacts and turn off the compressor not keep it on, on the 96 LX the starter cut relay S11 normally closed, the compressor relay C16 normally open (AC amp controlled) and the coolant temp relay E8 normally closed are all right next to each other in a row behind the glove box with a bunch of other relays
 
To eliminate the possiblity of the engine torque causing an electrical problem, what about putting the xfer case into N and then the tranny into D. Does it die then?

Also refering to -

>> * THERE IS A MARKED DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COMPRESSOR SPEED AND THE ENGINE SPEED<<

this still might be a bad fan belt causing slip.
 
>> this still might be a bad fan belt causing slip. <<

I think you're correct Riley. I tried twice but wiring harnesses and relays have more sex appeal.

It's gonna get hot in July and August.

-B-
 

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