80 series rear air bags
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That's like a totally cool look, 'Carolina', Baby!
. I can't imagine that's much fun to drive. Those springs look tired 
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I've been thinking of getting some for my 60.
This is on my 60. I run 15 lbs on average in the rear bags with 215 litres diesel, spare tire, 40 litres water, tools, roof tent, etc, etc
I used the BOSS triple bulb bags. Replaced the front bumpstops with SumoSprings Blue in front to smooth front end dives.
I used the BOSS triple bulb bags. Replaced the front bumpstops with SumoSprings Blue in front to smooth front end dives.
I guess that they come in various load capacity ratings, like OME. I've heard nothing but good things about the IronMan products.
If you want to try parabolic springs, a friend in Perth just installed a set of Terrain Tamer's on his 60. They apparently do offer
a dynamically nicer ride. I've been looking at a couple of videos on newer Troopies in Aus and same report. Smooth
ride and good load handling ability. Metallurgical technology is really high now, so it might be worth a look. The
only issue is cost. Yikes.
a dynamically nicer ride. I've been looking at a couple of videos on newer Troopies in Aus and same report. Smooth
ride and good load handling ability. Metallurgical technology is really high now, so it might be worth a look. The
only issue is cost. Yikes.
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The perspective on that pic seems to make it look worse than it is. The trailer all up hooked makes the rear of the cruiser sag 1", which is apparently well within "acceptable sag limits", but I'm no towing expert by any stretch. The rear of my 80 is loaded with the usual stuff (custom bumper with a 35" spare on one swing out, ladder on the other swing out (which currently has no basket for 2x 20l jugs), sleeping platform with 2 drawers full of recovery gear and misc camping stuff. Air bags are still a good idea, and those Sumitomo bump stops up front I'm considering, as I've bottomed out on the OEM ones lots.
That’s a lot of added weight. So maybe you’d be happy with air bags. How much tongue weight does the trailer add?
I don’t own an 80 or have air bags on a cruiser. I do have then on my work truck. My opinion is they make the empty ride harsh. Load up 1000-1500 lbs and they are good. In your case you are always carrying a fair bit of weight. So if you set up air bags so they are only attached on one side (stops them limiting droop) and they are not in full contact at 0psi to add support/spring rate until you add load/trailer and inflate maybe you will be good. If it was me and spring rate was good for all but towing I’d add spacers to make it sit an inch taller static height. So when you hook up trailer it is level. Unless you tow that thing often
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I've ordered some Air Lift bags. Quite a few write ups and installs on them in the 80 series section here with great results. These are there 1000 series and they fit inside the coils, they are not fixed at top or bottom. They will seat eventually at the bottom and work by maintaining pressure on the inside diameter of the coils.
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My 80 is set up pretty much like everyone else's in the club I think. @Greg_B is the only one I can think of that has the weight more centralized as he has removed his second row seats for storage solutions.
The trailer is rated at 2200 lbs dry, 3500 GVW, with a 300 lbs tongue weight.
Air Lift 1000 Air Spring Kit - 60755 | Air Lift Company
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My 80 is set up pretty much like everyone else's in the club I think. @Greg_B is the only one I can think of that has the weight more centralized as he has removed his second row seats for storage solutions.
The trailer is rated at 2200 lbs dry, 3500 GVW, with a 300 lbs tongue weight.
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Good call. Do any of you guys with 80 diesels install front airbags to compensate for bumper/winch weight etc?I've ordered some Air Lift bags. Quite a few write ups and installs on them in the 80 series section here with great results. These are there 1000 series and they fit inside the coils, they are not fixed at top or bottom. They will seat eventually at the bottom and work by maintaining pressure on the inside diameter of the coils.
Air Lift 1000 Air Spring Kit - 60755 | Air Lift Company
Air Suspension and Air Management
My 80 is set up pretty much like everyone else's in the club I think. Gregs is the only one I can think of that has the weight more centralized as he has removed his second row seats for storage solutions.
The trailer is rated at 2200 lbs dry, 3500 GVW, with a 300 lbs tongue weight.
Is it considered a solution to handling or would you think it's a bad idea?
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Generally it's a non issue up front, and I havent heard of any. But while I was researching this I stumbled across these Timbren bump stop options. I'm pondering the front ones as I've bottomed my front out numerous times (stock bump stops) on a 2" Iron Man lift when doing something silly. Timbren SES Suspension Enhancement System SKU# TOFLC1A - Front Kit - https://timbren.com/en-ca/products/toflc1a-toyota-land-cruiser-70-series-80-lexus-lx450-1990-present-front-kit
That's why I came up with using the SumoSprings on the 60. I got the idea from a participant running the
King of the Hammers. He had them on all 4 corners, and like him I found they really soften the blow of heavy
nose dives. I'm just not sure they work on the front coil trucks.
King of the Hammers. He had them on all 4 corners, and like him I found they really soften the blow of heavy
nose dives. I'm just not sure they work on the front coil trucks.
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They do..mostly. It seems the very early models, like mine, only have the bump stops inside the coils. Later Toyota added additional frame mounted ones, but mine doesnt have the bolts holes in the frame.
I'll be interested in your experience with them Jeff. I've got the Ironman as well, with the foam cell shocks, and have been happy thus far, though when the fridge, the food drawer, both fuel tanks, water, etc are full I can certainly feel it. Even with water, tools etc in the middle.
Good info on the Sumosprings Blue too. Don't like those unexpected front end dives that occationally happen no matter how diligent one is.
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Good info on the Sumosprings Blue too. Don't like those unexpected front end dives that occationally happen no matter how diligent one is.
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