Anyone replaced a steering rack with one from a 5th gen? Trying to figure out whether they are interchangeable. There are several different part numbers for the 4Runner racks, so it isnt clear from them whether the 4Runner rack will work or not.
5th Gen 4Runner Steering Rack Compatible? (1 Viewer)
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Same part number for example '12 4R and '12 GX 460
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44200-60223
Lexus OEM Gear Assembly Part# 44200-60223 | OEM Vehicle Parts
OEM Lexus Part # 44200-60223 - Gear Assembly Fits 2010-2023 Lexus GX460 Models: Up To 35% Off On Every Order And Guaranteed Fit When You Enter Your VIN
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Toyota OEM Link Assembly Power Ste Part# 44200-60223 | OEM Vehicle Parts
OEM Toyota Part # 44200-60223 - Link Assembly Power Ste Fits
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Is a 5th Gen T4R rack beefier or just something you have access to?
I think people swap out Tacoma racks with tundra ones to beef things up.
I think people swap out Tacoma racks with tundra ones to beef things up.
r2m
Richard
Just curious, why swap out for a 4R? Price?
They are stronger. Beside the mounting holes need to be larger and different style flare fitting, people been finding they bolt right up.
I have big concern that it would freak out the stability control but it seem contrary. Some people that done it said the VSC did not get triggered as much.
150 Series / GX460 / 5th gen 4Runner / 10+ FJ
Steering Ratio Overall 18.4:1
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering): 3.0
Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft): 38.0
Tie rod to rack M24x1.5
Tie rod to outer M16X1.5
120 series / GX470 / 4th gen 4Runner / 07-09 FJ
Steering Ratio Overall 15.7:1
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering):3.04
Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft): 37.4
Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft): 40.7
Tie rod to rack M22x1.5
Tie rod to outer M15x1.5
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I think @r2m and my question were concerning if the 5th Gen 4Runner and the 150(gx460) have the same rack, and it would appear they do? So it would not be an upgrade to throw a T4R rack into a GX of the same vintage.
Now who is swapping in a tundra rack lol
Looks like the 5th gen T4R rack on a GX470 could be a nice upgrade. I would have tried this when I replaced my rack if I had k iwn it was an option. Would be interested to see them side-by-side to get a better handle on the differences.
Found this in a Google search, seems that even a first Gen tundra rack would be an upgrade to the 460. It’s odd though in the description it does not say it would fit a 460, but it’s an option in the drop down menu?
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Toyota Steering Rack Upgrade / Tacoma 4Runner FJ Cruiser
Upgrade from the stock Toyota Tacoma, 4Runner, FJ Cruiser GX470 steering rack to the beefy 2nd Gen Toyota Tundra Rack and Pinion.
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r2m
Richard
About the only reason I can see for upgrading is for very large tires while rock crawling. And if that's the case then just go all out and spend just shy of $1000 for a full hydraulic steering system and call it done! Hydraulic Steering Package - 4X4 Off-Road Steer Kit - https://hydraulicsteeringunlimited.com/hydraulic-steering-package---4x4-off-road-steer-kit/
Other than that, is there a reason to go with a beefier rack?
Other than that, is there a reason to go with a beefier rack?
It is an upgrade for GX470.
Tundra rack got issue with turning radius. It is stronger but the housing are wider. They shorten the rack to make it fit our chassis and reduce bump steer but the drawback is the travel reduce. Your turning radius become much larger.
Pretty much all 470s are going to need a new rack at some point due to worn bushings. If a reman 5th gen rack isn't too much more than a 470 rack, why not upgrade? I have no intention of upgrading mine in the near future as it already has a new rack on it, but i would have been interested in this upgrade if I had known about it.
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Same part number for example '12 4R and '12 GX 460
44200-60223
Lexus OEM Gear Assembly Part# 44200-60223 | OEM Vehicle Parts
OEM Lexus Part # 44200-60223 - Gear Assembly Fits 2010-2023 Lexus GX460 Models: Up To 35% Off On Every Order And Guaranteed Fit When You Enter Your VIN
Toyota OEM Link Assembly Power Ste Part# 44200-60223 | OEM Vehicle Parts
OEM Toyota Part # 44200-60223 - Link Assembly Power Ste Fits
There seem to be more than one part number for the racks depending on where you look. After looking at several dealer sites, eBay, and carpart.com, I could not figure out a rhyme or reason to the part numbers.
The Tundra ones are pure beef no doubt, but that is more than just a bolt in job - and much pricier too. The GX460 is slightly beefier, and cheaper for the most part, even new.
If the 5th gen is the same as the GX460, it is beefier. They are also easily fund used and low mileage for relatively cheap. I took the plunge and got one from a 2021 4Runner with 20k for under $300. Have yet to do anything with it though, so I can't confirm anything as of yet.
There are a few successful reports on GXOR of GX 460 swaps. No 5th Gen 4Runner swaps yet though. I have spoken with folks that are now running them. No reported negative effects.
I'll lay them next to each other once I get time to pull this off. Have a 2021 4Runner rack in the garage now.
They added a parts cross reference to TOYODIY
Other than option differences I can’t recall any instance of beefier body, frame, suspension versions of compatible parts between the 460 and 5th Gen 4R. I’ve mainly seen 120 series upgrading to beefier compatible 150 series options. Open to being corrected though.
Other than option differences I can’t recall any instance of beefier body, frame, suspension versions of compatible parts between the 460 and 5th Gen 4R. I’ve mainly seen 120 series upgrading to beefier compatible 150 series options. Open to being corrected though.
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This is the one I bought.
Note the string of part number in the listing - none of which are the 44200-60223. Somewhere along the line that number was phased out. Hopefully just a number succession and not a change in the part.
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Odd, but not surprising. I coudnt get any confidence from the part numbers. Just hoping that they are are physically the same between the 460/5th Gen 4Runner.
In my Toyota EPC, 44200-60223 is for 10-12 4Runenr Mexico Spec.
On the US spec, I know the outer tie rods are the same, the inners are different. I have both types of inners in the garage at home I'll snap a pic later.
On the US spec, I know the outer tie rods are the same, the inners are different. I have both types of inners in the garage at home I'll snap a pic later.
Lexus parts site also shows for all 2010-2023 460s
And Toyota parts does show Mexico spec
4420060223 - Rack and Pinion. Steering, Brakes, Suspension - Genuine Lexus Part
Genuine Lexus Part # 4420060223 (44200-60223, 4420060220, 4420060221, 4420060222, 4420060230, 4425060230) - Rack and Pinion. Steering, Brakes, Suspension. Fits 4Runner, GX 460
parts.lexus.com
And Toyota parts does show Mexico spec
2018 Toyota 4Runner Rack and Pinion. Steering, Brakes, Make - 4420060223 - Genuine Toyota Part
Rack and Pinion. Steering, Brakes, Make. 2018 Toyota 4Runner. Genuine Toyota Part - 4420060223 (44200-60223, 4420060220, 4420060221, 4420060222, 4420060230, 4425060230)
parts.toyota.com
