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ps40-2 said:
Easy man, its all meant in fun.

I love my cruiser/cruisers in general. I do think they're superior, though I'd sure like to see some technical statistics to back up my intuition.

On the other hand, if I'm not mistaken aren't Cruisers derived from Jeeps historically? I thought the prototype was developed from the WWII Willis Jeep by the japanese. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. Not to start a pointless debate or anything.

barry :beer:
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Barry, I would think that since the first Land Cruiser that was produced by Toyota was called a "Toyota JEEP BJ", it was definitely modeled after a Jeep- although it turned out to be much more bad a$$. The Willis Jeep, from the research that I have done, was the only inspiration for the creation of our beloved Toyota Land Cruiser.
After the Japanese surrender in 1945, Toyota started production of trucks to help with the re-construction of Japan. The BM and SM type trucks were proposed for such purpose. In 1948, Communism spread in China, while friction between the US and Russia became more serious. Then, in July 25, 1951, North Korea invades South Korea and the US is involved in another war. For the US, it was not cost efficient to transport Willis Jeeps to the theatre of operations, so the US Army and the newly formed Japanese Defense Force petitioned Toyota for a “jeep like” vehicle. In five months, Toyota developed what at the time was called the “Toyota Jeep BJ”. It was outfitted with a 6 cylinder, B-type gas engine, 338cc, and 85 hp at 2400 RPMs and 159 lb/ft at 1600 RPMs. This engine was dated from 1938 and was designed for the 1-1/2 ton BM truck. The BM engine was modeled after the ‘30s Chevrolet engine. The Toyota Jeep BJ chassis was based on the SB truck, originally produced in 1947, and therefore the BJ was longer and wider than the Willis Jeep. Looking like a Willis more than anything else, the Toyota Jeep BJ was produced as a commercial and military vehicle. Because it looked like the Jeep, it was accused of being just a copy, but at the technical level, the BJ was build with an entire different philosophy. The Willis was designed to be as light as possible, using a small 4-cylinder engine originated from automobiles. Due to the Willis low torque characteristics, it was forced to use a gear reducer to traverse difficult terrain and steep hills. The Toyota Jeep BJ, built from 2 and 4-ton trucks, with its high torque engine had no need for gear reduction, and its 4-speed transmission with its 5.53:1 first gear was more than adequate. The Toyota Jeep BJ won points in July 1951 as the first motorized vehicle to reach the sixth station of Mt Fuji, driven by Ichiro Taira. Unfortunately, this publicity stunt did not went well with the American public and Toyota could not secure a large contract, but it was well received by the Japanese Defense Force and Police; it was also utilized with commercial purposes, specially agricultural.
 
ps40-2 said:
Impressive. Interesting. You did some homework. Much more than I have done. I think you should change your name. You have too much brain to be called BaRbiE.

What are some of your sources?
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I am assuming that these sites are reliable sources, considering they all say the same thing! I did all of that "homework" this summer while I was at work... BaRbIe is smart!!!! ha, she must be, because she's been around for a long time, and she still looks hot!- sort of like our Land Cruisers!

http://www.geocities.com/masscrusher/models.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser#1950-1959

http://www.vintageoffroad.com/nav.cfm?id=39
 
Hey, this thread has gotten off course. Kinda like a Jeep.;)

Ya ll get back to singing praises about 49 Tire:grinpimp: :grinpimp:

Thanks again everybody for the business!!!!

Chris and Debbie
 
wct49 said:
Hey, this thread has gotten off course. Kinda like a Jeep.;)

Ya ll get back to singing praises about 49 Tire:grinpimp: :grinpimp:

Thanks again everybody for the business!!!!

Chris and Debbie
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good point, good point..

I can say this: my tires are still attached to my truck--even if I didn't buy there, you did a fine mounting/balancing. I'll be back. I still need a spare.
 
jesterb said:
You should know what happens when you ASSuME

Everyone here knows how to use the internet....learning from it takes more than googling "Land Cruiser" and taking everything you read as gospel. Carry on.
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:censor: Okay, just because you are now the new Events Coordinator doesn't mean you have to get all cocky! Plus, I don't remember you being a part of this conversation- ha-jk! Anyway, everyone knows that the Land Cruiser was inspired by the Jeep- even though it's a hard pill to swallow. I will have you know that I am not your "Everyday Search Engine Know It ALL!" My "assumptions" are common sense (that if I can't prove it untrue with research-based information, then I will assume that it is true.) I know that some of the the information on the WWW is all but inerrant, but if you are trained on how to discern the ligitimacy of websites, you can usually decide which ones are reliable sources. You should look at the sponsor to make sure the info. isn't bias, check to see when it was last updated, find out where the information came from, etc... I, being a pre-service teacher with a 4.0 GPA and all, think that I know how to use the Internet effectively. In conclusion, don't aSSuME that you're talking to a dumb A$$, because I know my S***! Can't wait to meet you! I'm really not that mean, but I will not sit back and let someone question my degree of intelligence or imply that I don't know how to use the Internet!!!! Oh, by the way- I found this site on the internet that said that Chris Tolleson's Tire Shop was the freaking bomb- Oh, but wait.... I googled it so I musn't assume that it's true... BUT IT IS AND WE ALL KNOW IT!!!! Alright, now yall need to quit hijacking my thread- It's all about 49 Tire, remember!!! "Carry on..." xoxo-CrUiSeR BaRbiE Just have:beer:and get over it!
 
You're making my head hurt. All I wanted you to do was learn who vintage offroad was. Congratulations on your 4.0.
 
Ms Barbie, your skin needs to be a little thicker if you want to hang around on this site. You definately don't want to joust with Jes. He will make you cry or hate him. Good luck!

Later,
 
Ya'll done gone and got into one of them serious debates. Thought this thread was about 49 Tire. Ya'll be nice to each other and buy tires from 49 Tire. :cheers:
 
Bodean said:
Ms Barbie, your skin needs to be a little thicker if you want to hang around on this site. You definately don't want to joust with Jes. He will make you cry or hate him. Good luck!

Later,
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I have no desire to participate in any jousting, but you, of all people should know that I don't like to be insulted. I would never hate him, in fact, you can only play around with people that you like. Ask Tony... He knows that I like to mess with his friends, and he also knows that most of the time I'm just playing around. I was just trying to show Barry something, and for some reason everybody freaked out! Thanks for the good luck, but I don't think I'll need it because this has gotton way out of hand. I love you, Neely, and Lori! Please send them my love!
 
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