2013 Landcruiser - Cooper Discoverer ATWs - 275 70 R18

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Also noticed that when I would turn truck to the left the sound dissipates (less pressure on right side).

Actually ... when turning to the left, there is MORE pressure (aka load) on the right side.

HTH
 
Could be a bad bearing

Symptoms of a Worn Wheel Hub Bearing | KnowYourParts

Humming, rumbling or growling.

These noises are normally associated with tire, electrical or drivetrain components. If bearing-related, the noise or vibration is present when driving in a straight line, but intensifies when turning the steering wheel slightly to the left or right. Typically, the side opposite the rumbling is the defective side.
 
Could be a bad bearing

Symptoms of a Worn Wheel Hub Bearing | KnowYourParts

Humming, rumbling or growling.

These noises are normally associated with tire, electrical or drivetrain components. If bearing-related, the noise or vibration is present when driving in a straight line, but intensifies when turning the steering wheel slightly to the left or right. Typically, the side opposite the rumbling is the defective side.

I had that issue, and it turned out the bearing was fine. Just tire cupping. Definitely was similar to a bad-hub noise...but Toyota checked that and it was fine. Fronts were cupped badly and when I moved them to the rear...the noise moved with them.
 
apologies - I wrote it wrong but was doing it right (and correctly). Was turning to the right to relieve load on the right tires, and in doing so noise would go mitigate. Turn to the left, no change. This was at highway speeds, mind you, so it was more like an aggressive lane changing.

In any event, I'll take it to Toyota but I'm not buying the wheel bearing theory from NTB. I bought this truck 4 months ago, certified preowned with 52k miles on it, and I do not believe that this noise just now pops up immeidately after i swap out highway tires and put on the ATWs. Maybe these tires also just while like crazy and there is nothing I can do about it, except try to unload them and start from scratch with a set of tires that have a 30 day ride guaranty.
 
Brought the truck back to NTB this morning. They drove it and said that they did not notice anything out of the ordinary, that it was not a balancing issue because there was no vibration in the vehicle, and said that maybe the whining was a wheel bearing issue and suggested I take the truck to Toyota. They clearly did not want to deal with me. When driving home last evening (about 50 miles) I definitely noticed that it takes the tires coming up to temperature for the sound to become overwhelming. Also noticed that when I would turn truck to the left the sound dissipates (less pressure on right side). When turning to the right the sound is the same, maybe marginally worse. NTB has simply said the tires were properly installed, appear to be properly balanced, and that if i'm dissatisfied I should take it up with Tread Depot. I called Tread Depot, and they said that unless there is a mfgr defect they won't take them back. These tires did not come with their 30-day test drive guaranty. Not sure where I go from here. I may try Toyota dealership or a real tire shop that is willing to take the time to work through this with me. If what I'm hearing is just the noise of the tires then I'll have to decide whether to live with it or put my old BFGs back on, sell the ATWs on craigslist and start all over.
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Wow at is a raw deal. It is a bummer that Cooper does not have a trial period.

I felt bad returning the noisy tires I had, but I would have not been satisfied with the excess high pitch noise in the tire. Off road tires do make more noise, but when I could not hear the kids in the back seat talk with me I knew it was not going to work.
 
exactly my situation. I want the best of both worlds, know that I won't get perfection, but I am trying. My LC is my primary vehicle so I commute in it at least 2-3 times a week, all highway miles and often as much as 100 miles per day RT. In other words, a lot of highway miles. On the other extreme have a fishing/hunting camp 5 hours north of me in Maine, 10 miles down a gated dirt road and very close to off the grid. I run logging and skit paths frequently for bird hunting and fly fishing and those roads in winter and early/mid spring require much more than a strictly on-road tire. I love the extra 1 1/2 inches of clearance with the 275 70 r18s (i could have used that little bit of extra clearance several times earlier this fall) and I can tell that the ATWs will be great in snow, dirt and mud. The truck looks great with them, and if I was never going to drive it over 50 on the asphalt I wouldn't be complaining one bit. But when my kids tell me they can hear the whining through their headphones and its tough to have a conversation on the highway, I need better options.
 
exactly my situation. I want the best of both worlds, know that I won't get perfection, but I am trying. My LC is my primary vehicle so I commute in it at least 2-3 times a week, all highway miles and often as much as 100 miles per day RT. In other words, a lot of highway miles. On the other extreme have a fishing/hunting camp 5 hours north of me in Maine, 10 miles down a gated dirt road and very close to off the grid. I run logging and skit paths frequently for bird hunting and fly fishing and those roads in winter and early/mid spring require much more than a strictly on-road tire. I love the extra 1 1/2 inches of clearance with the 275 70 r18s (i could have used that little bit of extra clearance several times earlier this fall) and I can tell that the ATWs will be great in snow, dirt and mud. The truck looks great with them, and if I was never going to drive it over 50 on the asphalt I wouldn't be complaining one bit. But when my kids tell me they can hear the whining through their headphones and its tough to have a conversation on the highway, I need better options.

Those poor kids... ;) -Gotta hear wheel noise through their headphones...

In mah kid days of yore... Headphones on road trips was cawled AM Ray-dee-yo...and we liked it!
Heck, we weren't even in charge of the tuning knob! :grinpimp:
 
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But when my kids tell me they can hear the whining through their headphones and its tough to have a conversation on the highway, I need better options.

As stated earlier I have these tires, and while they do hum, or whine a little it is by no means a conversation stopper in the vehicle. I've had other AT tires, some quieter, some not, in your case I would contact Cooper directly. There are a couple of other members in the 200 section that have experience with the tire also, maybe they could chime in. Otherwise there are mud members in other sections running this tire, expand your audience.

BTW, I don't buy a wheel bearing on such a low mile LC. These are not that kind of vehicle, unless something out of the ordinary happened.

Good luck.
 
As stated earlier I have these tires, and while they do hum, or whine a little it is by no means a conversation stopper in the vehicle. I've had other AT tires, some quieter, some not, in your case I would contact Cooper directly. There are a couple of other members in the 200 section that have experience with the tire also, maybe they could chime in. Otherwise there are mud members in other sections running this tire, expand your audience.

BTW, I don't buy a wheel bearing on such a low mile LC. These are not that kind of vehicle, unless something out of the ordinary happened.

Good luck.
As stated earlier I have these tires, and while they do hum, or whine a little it is by no means a conversation stopper in the vehicle. I've had other AT tires, some quieter, some not, in your case I would contact Cooper directly. There are a couple of other members in the 200 section that have experience with the tire also, maybe they could chime in. Otherwise there are mud members in other sections running this tire, expand your audience.

BTW, I don't buy a wheel bearing on such a low mile LC. These are not that kind of vehicle, unless something out of the ordinary happened.

Good luck.

Can these bearings even be repacked? I think they are throw-away now, and come as a full unit with the full hub assembly...
 
BTW, I don't buy a wheel bearing on such a low mile LC. These are not that kind of vehicle, unless something out of the ordinary happened.

My '08 Acura MDX had a wheel bearing go bad at ~30k miles. I actually thought the tires were cupping at first, but the dealer replaced the left front bearing and the noise went away. Since the noise came on gradually I hadn't noticed how noisy it had gotten until I had driven a new loaner vehicle that was so much quieter. It could be that you're noticing it now because you have new, quieter tires. Or it certainly could be the tires themselves. I'm not sure your issue is a wheel bearing, but in my experience they can occasionally go even at low mileage so don't rule it out based on age alone.
 
Since it seems the noise is mostly coming from the right side you could swap the side the tires are on and see if the noise tracks. At least that way you would know if it's a specific tire.
 
I have the ATW in a 275/70R18. They are louder than the 315/75R16 BFG KO2's I had on my 100 series. Nothing overwhelming, but my top speed is about 70mph on my commute & I run 35PSI. I would recommend you contact Cooper and see what they can do for you. If I were buying tires again, I would go with the BFG KO2 over the ATW's. To me they are underwhelming on the ice which is mostly what we drive on here in Alaska in the winter. They are great for fresh snow, but the roads usually get cleared to the bare ice the same day it snows here. Just my experience with them.

Edit: I finally took my ATW's offroad, my rating on these has gone way up. On the street I still slide some which is due to the weight of the rig. Offroad at 15PSI I had 0 problems. Got up some icy hills I couldn't even walk up, and was extremely impressed with their performance. Would buy these over the KO2 here in Alaska again.
 
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Move the tires around. Put the fronts in back and backs in front. Try it. Then, move them right to left and left to right. See if that changes anything.
 
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