2.2Kw starter 'upgrade' thoughts

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Not to stir the pot, but the person who has this "cold-climate" option starter says that its part number is: 28100-66060 AND it's 2.2kw.

Could it be possible, with the same part number and all?
He also told me that it was good for "all" FZJ's, too.

Maybe he's full of it!

Just wonderin'.

Mot :confused:
Cold climate2 28100-66060.webp
Cold climate 28100-66060.webp
 
Photoman said:
tiorio - maybe these pics from a different angle will help you...
Bill

Sorry for the confusion, I meant the pics in the link to the remanufactured unit didn't look like a 2.2Kw, not your pics! Your 2.2Kw is definately a 2.2Kw...

MOT's pics don't look like the 2.2Kw though, the look more like a 2.0Kw BUT the pinion gear doesn't retract into the 'sleeve' like the other 2.0Kw units I've seen???
 
I may have missed some other threads on this issue so I apologize if this has already been addressed before: I'm replacing the starter in my FZJ80 and have looked online at various parts websites. Does anyone know much about www.the-auto-parts-store.com? I searched for 28100-66050 part number to get the 2.2kw and it appears to be a new OEM part with a price of $371.67. Does that sound right? Or is this likely to be a remanufactured 2.2kw? Or actually an aftermarket 2.2kw? I'm new to all this so I want to make sure I know what i'm looking for and/or getting. Thanks.
 
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csnowtn said:
II'm replacing the starter in my FZJ80

If you are talking about replacing the starter in your 56k 1997 LC then read up on the replacement of the starter contacts (~$30) and save yourself ~$350. The starter has to come out anyway and it only takes 30 minutes to replace the contacts.

-B-
 
How long would you estimate the labor to take on pulling out the starter?
 
csnowtn said:
How long would you estimate the labor to take on pulling out the starter?

The estimate is irrevelant. You have to R&R to put in a new one. You have to R&R to replace the contacts.

I can do it in about 30 minutes but I've done it about 4 times and my truck is lifted so I can access it from below... no lift... no wheel removal... right tools.... learned the trick on snaking it out through the frame.

If you are a 1 banana DIY guy and this is you first starter removal on the 80 then figure 2 hours to remove it, 30 minutes to replace the contacts, and maybe 30 minutes to put it back in. 3 hours max.

There are 2 bolts holding the starter to the engine. One goes front to rear, the other goes rear to front. The one that goes rear to front is best accessed with a long extension (~2') and a flex-head 3/8" ratchet. The other fastener is easy to remove. The remaining fastener is for the starter cable and there is a wire connection that needs to be unsnapped. Some guys go through the LF wheel well which provides a bit of a view of what you are doing.

Don't forget to remove the battery cable before you start, lest you burn down the garage. When the battery cable is reattached the ECU will need to re-learn so idle will be erratic for a few start cycles.

Good Luck and keep us posted.

-B-
 
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Beno said:
Not including taking wheel off and disconnecting battery, about 10 minutes.

If you have small hands, 5 minutes.

-o-

See... everything I do takes a lot longer than others... plus I don't have small hands or anything else for that matter. :D

-B-
 
Just a timely bullet point:

Starter gave the wifey problems just the other day. Classic click-no-start sound of contacts. Solid hit with a mag-light to the starter solved to problem but time to give Dan a call...

I have 147k on the truck but got the starter used so have no real data for actual longevity...

Cheers!
 
I didn't have my EPC when this thread was going, but just looked the 2.2kw number in it and found it to be still available (as of Nov. '05).

But the cost would make it not worth it IMO (listed for close to $1000US). The weaker 2.0kw listed for $200 less, but still very expensive:eek:

Mot
 
Sorry to drag this up a bit here...

Just wondering if the 2.2kw starter would be a direct fit into other year LC's (ie: this was only in the 93 year model, would it fit a 97)?

Thanks.
-o-
 
I was thinking about this the other day. What's the big infatuation with the 2.2 kw? I mean, I'm all for 'bigger is better', but I can't think of a benefit, other than draining your battery faster. My starters all crank the engines over with no problems whatsoever. Am I missing something, or is the OCD rearing it's ugly head again (as is common here, I can't IMAGINE what the 100 section is like!).

-Spike
 
I was thinking about this the other day. What's the big infatuation with the 2.2 kw? I mean, I'm all for 'bigger is better', but I can't think of a benefit, other than draining your battery faster. My starters all crank the engines over with no problems whatsoever. Am I missing something, or is the OCD rearing it's ugly head again (as is common here, I can't IMAGINE what the 100 section is like!).

-Spike


Probably more OCD than anything else.

That said, my truck sits for extended periods of time. And the weather is generally very cold and humid which seems to be a poor mix for electrical systems in general.

I would just like the added comfort of knowing that when I want to start it up and go on a mission that I won't be screwing around with starter issues.

That said, I like replacing parts....

;)
 
OCD? I have no idea what you are talking about :doh:
 
I did some time in Alaska where my truck would sit unused and freeeeeezing cold and the normal starter had a very hard time and/or needed a jump to crank the motor fast enough. When I needed a new one, I took a little extra time to track down a 2.2kw.

It will fit all the other years btw, I have one in my 97 no prob. Cranks that motor like a mo-fo in sunny CA!
 
I did some time in Alaska where my truck would sit unused and freeeeeezing cold and the normal starter had a very hard time and/or needed a jump to crank the motor fast enough. When I needed a new one, I took a little extra time to track down a 2.2kw.

It will fit all the other years btw, I have one in my 97 no prob. Cranks that motor like a mo-fo in sunny CA!


I'm currently on the hunt for one as well.

Most of the parts distributers on line can get one for a 1993 with the 2.2kw....but it's either a Bosch aftermarket or an NSA one which is also an aftermarket unit. I'd rather have the Denso unit.

The key, as Dan said earlier in this thread, is to find a junked 93 and source the unit from there. If I go find one, before it goes on the truck, it will get a thorough once over to make sure things are good.

I've got a lead on one but the pirce is slightly exorbitant. It seems a lot of these junker places know the value of Cruiser parts to us die-hard or OCD folks....

Hence the upgraded market.

Best.
-o-
 
The 2.2 starter will fit any year 1FZ.
 
If anybody is BEYOND desperete(sp) in getting his hands on those, PM me and I can see if its' still available here (probably Cdan knows).

Mot



I'm currently on the hunt for one as well.

Most of the parts distributers on line can get one for a 1993 with the 2.2kw....but it's either a Bosch aftermarket or an NSA one which is also an aftermarket unit. I'd rather have the Denso unit.

The key, as Dan said earlier in this thread, is to find a junked 93 and source the unit from there. If I go find one, before it goes on the truck, it will get a thorough once over to make sure things are good.

I've got a lead on one but the pirce is slightly exorbitant. It seems a lot of these junker places know the value of Cruiser parts to us die-hard or OCD folks....

Hence the upgraded market.

Best.
-o-
 

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