100 Front Brake Pads on an 80 ?'s

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I'm looking at putting 100 series front brake pads with new 80 rotors on my 96 LC. Does it matter what year 100 series pads you use or are they all the same? Also, are 96 LX front rotors the same as on a 96 LC? Yes, I did a search but couldn't find specific answers to these questions.
 
1. I just call Cdan and ask for 100 series pads for my 96 and the right parts show up at my door, have a set sitting here Toyota part #04465-60220, no idea what year(s) that come from. or if they ever changed.

2. rotors are the same between LC and LX, almost all of the mechanicals of the two are identical, the diffrences are in cosmetic exterior parts and creature comforts and the electronics that support those creature comofrts. there is a thread in the FAQ that cover all the known diffrences
 
Thanks for the info. Do you also need to leave off the 4 anti-shim plates when you're installed the 100 pads? If so, what effect will that have? Do you need to install them down the road after the pads wear out some?
 
YOTAFAN said:
Thanks for the info. Do you also need to leave off the 4 anti-shim plates when you're installed the 100 pads? If so, what effect will that have? Do you need to install them down the road after the pads wear out some?
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The PO of my rig had midas install pads, those pads had built in glued on shims, I guess the OEM shims went in the garbage at some point in my rigs past, I hear they do not fit with 100 series pads until they wear down some, I sometimes get a light non annoying squeek first stop of the day but that is about it, no problems otherwise, I was going to order new OEM shims but I have not bothered.
 
Oh BTW forgot to mention soemthing important, you asked about rotors but did no specifically say you are replacing them, you should use 100 series pads with new or turned used 80 series rotors, the 80 series pads do not contact the whole disk surface after a wile a step developes in the rotor. 100 series pads do contact the whole surface (and then some) so they will sit at an angle with very poor contact when new and wear in funny later.
 
No shims on the 100 pads in the 80 caliper. The 80 shims will not fit the pads anyway because the backing plate is larger.
 
I recently did this mod. new rotors front and rear, and new pads all around w/ 100 series pads on the front. I haven't really noticed any difference in the braking power. Is it really just a wear thing?
 
That's what I think.
 
notyourmomslx450 said:
I recently did this mod. new rotors front and rear, and new pads all around w/ 100 series pads on the front. I haven't really noticed any difference in the braking power. Is it really just a wear thing?
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your butt-o-meter just probably isnt sensitive enough to notice the difference, but youve probably decreased your stopping distance by a foot or two. you wont notice huge gains unless you go to something crazy like 6-pistons with a 14 inch rotor, and even then your gain is ten feet or less.
 
I done this mod and had lots of problems, I had to shim out the brake caliper so the rotor would run central to the caliper, or you will not get the 100 pads in on one side of the rotor. just though I better let you know, do a search on my nick and the reports I put on here.
 
trying to figure out what pads I have. I'm guessing regular 80 series, but I'm not positive.

I'm really posting these pics so C-dan can see them as I can't attach them in a PM??? (I though we could send pics in a PM? no?)
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The noise makers are consistant with 80 series pads.
 
Pull a pad out and post a picture of it laying flat on the concrete. I'm guessing that there are more people here who could ID it then than couldn't.

If you aren't planing to have the rotors turned (a real PITA in my book if you aren't already servicing the axel) then just replace with a set from the corner generic auto parts store. Repeat every 15,000 miles until you're set to pull apart the axel then resurface it and put 100 pads on.

Just putting a fresh set of pads front/rear can improve braking performance a lot if the front pads were badly worn. I think I wore a set to the point where the pistons couldn't do a good job of pushing them against the rotors anymore. Fresh pads and suddenly I'm more aware of the ABS.

JMHO. YMMV.
 
FWIW,

Did the 100 series pads with new front rotors on my '95 80. My mechanic was only able to get the pads in after a light sanding on the orbital. Those who were able to drop thiers in must have been using turned rotors.
 
The brakes on the 80's are a joke. need to be replaced every 15k. A while back les schwab was having a deal where if you wear out your breaks under the warenty period (of like 13-14k miles) they would give you a new set. Sure enough I went though them in I think 12-13k (hauling around loaded trailers part of the time). got a few sets of free brake pads that way.
 
Fly Rod said:
FWIW,

Did the 100 series pads with new front rotors on my '95 80. My mechanic was only able to get the pads in after a light sanding on the orbital. Those who were able to drop thiers in must have been using turned rotors.
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Mine dropped in with new OEM rotors. It was necessary to make sure that the pistons on the calipers were fully compressed. In previous posts about this subject it seems that some have had to "grind" the 100 series pads and others not.

Mine went in fine (sans the shims).
 
I sell aftermarket performance parts. Is there a certain company that sells a brake upgrade of some sort. I can get you guys a awsome price.
 
RavenTai said:
1. I just call Cdan and ask for 100 series pads for my 96 and the right parts show up at my door, have a set sitting here Toyota part #04465-60220, no idea what year(s) that come from. or if they ever changed.
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I just went to a Toyota Philippines dealer today and got 80series pads for my 1990 HDJ81:
front disc pads: 04465-60020 (with dark green-colored plate - AISIN-TEQ mark on the back)
rear disc pads: 04466-60020 (with light green-colored plate - Sumitomo-TEQ mark on the back)

Are these the part numbers for a 100series pads? or an 80series?

I'm a little-bit confused with RavenTai's statement when he called CDan. Does he mean that when he ordered a 100series pads, what he got was 04465-60220?

Reading the posts on 100series pads being better for an 80series, I would like to use 100series pads as well. Please advise if what I got are an 80-series pads. I don't have an EPC but checking on an HDJ80 manual I downloaded from a french site (see pic), the first 5 numbers (04465) matched what I had. Does this mean 60220 refers to a 100series?

Please advise asap. I still have Monday next week to go to the dealer and have them replace the "80-series pads" with the real 100-series.

Hope you can help clear up my confusion.


 
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04465-60220 are 100 series pads, I have a box of them right here.
04465-60020 should be 80 series pad if you told the dealer you wanted pads for your 80 series.

there are some differences between Us and international models, not sure if brake parts are one of these,

mine dropped right in, no grind no shim, the rotors were newish after market. from midas, BTW I have the records they got the PO for over 1K$ for brake job, new rotors in front, pads all around and an oil change :eek: they sold it to me not long after that and they got a minivan,

I have about 50K miles on my 100 series pads, still have a lot of meat left, maybe more than half, but I am easy on brakes.
 
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