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This is the wiring diagram l'm using, its not the greatest but seems to be the most accurate comparison to my loom l can find.
Tracing a short, repairing harness & installing EDIC/Glow plug timer update a couple of questions & a heads up on 40 parts... (1 Viewer)
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I just see a google 403 error :/
I clicked on the arrow at top right, loaded as new tab which I could click on and then download the pic
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Weird, I can't see that on my phone. Maybe it's a uk thing
Old Lenovo laptop Windows 10 running chrome
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l'm UK based/using a vpn...Google is data collection central & its crap... have you tried Brave.com....search engine with no data collected.
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Here's some more pics, the 1st..has what l think is the drive relay sitting on the edge of the top wing (to the left you'll see the rad fan shroud & 2 chrome bolts sitting out behind the horn thats where it bolts too) you'll also see the water bottle frame, the wire runs between it & the inner wing down towards the headlight, horn & radiator. The unknown relay l posted earlier (above) bolts into the corner tucked between the water bot frame & the front bulkhead...
2nd is the relay itself..
3rd is the loom connection..it has the 2 heavy wires shown..the loom wire into the male/female connector has a black wire & a black/orange stripe wire.
The 1st pic also shows the 2 thin male/female connectors from the loom one has a red block...the wires here are white/black & red/black...
4th/5th pics are where l'm at stage....passenger side out checked, repaired ready for insulation tape/sleeving, the other is the driver side, you can see the EZ power steering unit & fusebox wiring to the right...thankfully it was a good day.. roll on friday...
2nd is the relay itself..
3rd is the loom connection..it has the 2 heavy wires shown..the loom wire into the male/female connector has a black wire & a black/orange stripe wire.
The 1st pic also shows the 2 thin male/female connectors from the loom one has a red block...the wires here are white/black & red/black...
4th/5th pics are where l'm at stage....passenger side out checked, repaired ready for insulation tape/sleeving, the other is the driver side, you can see the EZ power steering unit & fusebox wiring to the right...thankfully it was a good day.. roll on friday...
That's your glow plug relay
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Thanks Dougal, the heavy wires to the other relay, esp the black had a hole in the outer sleeve & wiring was exposed so it must've been shorting out on the bodywork, in the meantime l've insulated the heavy wires & replaced the smaller wires connector with a direct link & rerouted it away from the inner wing & bolts it was rubbing against. hopefully it'll start better now & it might even turn off at the switch...
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It seems my ute has 2 glow plug relays...the 1st picture l was trying to ID is a GP relay according to MrLandcruiser, and according to Dougal & after doing further research the relay on the wing is also a GP relay...both are live..and today after repairing & reinstalling the wiring loom & connecting everything it started 1st turn of the key after sitting for over a week ( a 1st since l bought it)..that said it still doesn't switch off at the ignition so l'll be fitting a pull stop to get round this issue for the summer & l'm thinking about commissioning a new loom later on this year, given the wiring is 40yr old & having checked alot of it, its looking tired. (blackened instead of copper).
l'm wondering if there was a wiring colour change in the later model HJ47 ?..for the indicators
l'm wondering if there was a wiring colour change in the later model HJ47 ?..for the indicators
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Just a heads up Dougal ...the green/black heavy wired relay is according to Mr Landcruiser the glow plug relay.... its probably original & l'll have to carbon date it for a part number...
This is how my kill cable works on my H..
Very easy.
No EMP concerns here.
Very easy.
No EMP concerns here.
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Yea i know some injection pumps need the cable looping over to pull from the front.
Mine prefers it from the back. Meh
Mine prefers it from the back. Meh
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its also the same pump as l have, his set up looks okay... l can make a bracket for the pump connection & drill a hole in the arm..l already have a push start cable l'll convert it to stop it...lol.
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Yours look alot easier to install mine will be a faff but it'll work...
Keep it simple. Less to go wrong
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Absolutely, l'm sitting here thinking to myself...(did your Gran ever have a kitchen washing pulley for drying clothes, you pull up to the ceiling ?)... l've got a couple of those old pulley wheels, l might be able to adapt 1...for the cable to go around...to the bracket...then to the pump (keeping it a period ute at all costs....
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The good news is the wiring looms back in & the ute starts 1st turn of the key... but.. the ignition still isn't switching off, the CD players not working now & the passenger (L/H) flasher is blinking away faster than the drivers side...everything else is working.
Ignition wise l've ordered a pull stop cable (l've rigged up something else meantime)... l've rechecked the CD wiring/relay/fuses & the wiring loom/connections its all connected ok..(so l'm kinda groping in the dark & l've the scars to prove it.)...Anyway l bought aftermarket front indicators which transpired to have 2 right hand internal units, so after a bit of a switcheroo and a rewire & modify the internal earths before install. l suspect the passenger side needs a proper earth cable to the inner wing, it didn't have 1 before. l'll add an internal wire & run it into the engine bay & see if that works....
After some thought l suspect as far as the CD player goes, there's possibly an internal break in the Aux power supply wire somewhere that l took from the lighter which still works (?) & the main supply is connected via fuse to the battery & its earthed..
Interestingly in the midst of doing the wiring loom l found 4 previous repairs to the white/blue alternator cable, which looped past what must've been an internal break & reconnected to the alt cable abt 8 inches away.... so someone's 'been here before'......l think the new loom l was considering..maybe fast approaching on the horizon....l'm awaiting the quote for it.
And just as an aside, l've ordered a new header pipe...mine has a crack reappeared between the 2-1 connection which was previously repaired. (badly)..
Next up, the ute goes in for its MOT (road safety check) on wednesday, officially 3 weeks before its exempt from ever having to have 1 again & the road tax exemption kicks in too...
Ignition wise l've ordered a pull stop cable (l've rigged up something else meantime)... l've rechecked the CD wiring/relay/fuses & the wiring loom/connections its all connected ok..(so l'm kinda groping in the dark & l've the scars to prove it.)...Anyway l bought aftermarket front indicators which transpired to have 2 right hand internal units, so after a bit of a switcheroo and a rewire & modify the internal earths before install. l suspect the passenger side needs a proper earth cable to the inner wing, it didn't have 1 before. l'll add an internal wire & run it into the engine bay & see if that works....
After some thought l suspect as far as the CD player goes, there's possibly an internal break in the Aux power supply wire somewhere that l took from the lighter which still works (?) & the main supply is connected via fuse to the battery & its earthed..
Interestingly in the midst of doing the wiring loom l found 4 previous repairs to the white/blue alternator cable, which looped past what must've been an internal break & reconnected to the alt cable abt 8 inches away.... so someone's 'been here before'......l think the new loom l was considering..maybe fast approaching on the horizon....l'm awaiting the quote for it.
And just as an aside, l've ordered a new header pipe...mine has a crack reappeared between the 2-1 connection which was previously repaired. (badly)..
Next up, the ute goes in for its MOT (road safety check) on wednesday, officially 3 weeks before its exempt from ever having to have 1 again & the road tax exemption kicks in too...
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The ute passed its MOT.....now l can get back to tinkering with it......
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